āprepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program.ā
- TrumpĀ repostedĀ Fittonās comment Monday with the caption, āTRUE!!ā
I donāt even know what to say. Iām gobsmacked to depression daily that youāre ok with this.
But EGG PRICES! The economy!
And heās such a strong leaderā¦
(I am paraphrasing actual interviews our local networks did with college students)
I think we need to start using strongman in conversation more for the people who donāt know what it means.
I think those colleges need to stop charging tuition. Clearly, their education is worthless.
Next up: arson attack on US Congress. And then the Enabling Act.
My crazy prediction is that trump will try to duplicate the burning of the Reichstag. Except, in typical fashion, he will do so in a comically inept fashion. Heāll try to burn down the Reichstag, and heāll actually succeed! Unfortunately, heāll burn down the Reichstagā¦the actual Reichstag, not the US capital, but the present-day German parliament building.
Every single bad thing about this country, from now on, will be prepended with āBidenā
It shall be law.
Iām not actually sure if Iām joking.
It was weird to watch donvict try to make that a thing in near real time, with āBidenflationā and āBigrationā or some such shit. This stuff works on the clapping seals that make up his base, though.
There are not enough ICE officers to conduct mass deportation in red states, let alone blue ones. Trump will require cooperation of local police.
If he uses the military in Blue states, itās an obvious attack on the 10th Amendment. Itās also illegal to use the military for domestic police work.
We can bet on incompetence for now. Trump needs to grow ICE to a large size before heās even able to conduct a large scale deportation plan of any kind. Deploying the National Guard would be a faux pas, but thatās probably the workaround else need to prepare for legally.
If it gets that far, and Iām not convinced it will, Troops arenāt trained for immigration issues.
Do you think 18 year old dumbass Privates and Corporals know the difference between a Puerto Rican US Citizen and an illegal Mexican? Do you think US Troops have any training on police actions? Lawyers or courts?
Thatās a disaster waiting to happen. We use troops rarely because theyāre dumbasses with a gun. We give them exceptional fighting training, but no training on finer details of policing. Use of force will be too high, rights will be trampled, US Citizens will 100% get caught up as military has no fucking training on this subject.
If it gets that far, then we know what to do. Take pictures, document, build national level outrage.
Oh no, its illegal to use the military for domestic police work? Deploying the National Guard would be a āfaux pasā?
Well, Iām sure that will stop him for sure!
Its the next political bulwark and where we rally next. If Trump runs over that bulwark, then we make plans afterwards.
But the Military will NOT want to be seen going house-to-house deporting Puerto Rican American Citizens. I know thereās a lot of racists out there, but if they do that, we just take some pictures and the national level outrage and blatant racism on the troopās faces will be shown for everyone. And trust me, if a mass deportation order were invoked, 100% legal US Citizens will be swept up in the blatantly racist attack.
These people cannot tell the difference from an illegal Mexican, a legal Haitian or a US Citizen Puerto Rican. Iām serious. So thatās no longer a Trump-specific thing at that point. Thatās commanders and soldiers who will have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Thatās commanders and soldiers who will have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
If the second Bush era taught us anything, itās that thereās plenty of soldiers willing to live with things for the rest of their lives.
the national level outrage and blatant racism on the troopās faces will be shown for everyone
And what will anyone be able to do about it? Thatās the problem with installing a fascist autocracy. Outrage does not deter fascists. The left needs to organize and be prepared to physically obstruct these actions, and that is not going to be without danger.
Trump will require cooperation of local police.
Plenty of pigs are already on his side, and would help him with this willingly.
Also, as president, SCOTUS has already ruled that he can pretty much do what he wants as long as itās an āofficialā act.
Plenty of pigs are already on his side, and would help him with this willingly.
In some red states, yes. But thatās largely in rural areas. Iām not sure if even a city in a deep-red state like Houston would cooperate with Trump.
Its not up to the Police in any case. Itād be likely up to the local Attorneyās General.
Also, as president, SCOTUS has already ruled that he can pretty much do what he wants as long as itās an āofficialā act.
If Trump wants to personally come down and deport Mexicans one by one, Iād love to see it. But otherwise, Trump is going to write a thing that likely wonāt make sense. Local police wonāt get any money for immigration issues and will complain about funding and long hours. Then all the shit will collapse unless Congress gives more money for a deportation program.
A couple federal judges have opined that he can declare an invasion on US land. This unlocks a lot of powers for him if they interpret the laws in their favor.
You say that. But the minute peopleās private homes get invaded by US Troops, US citizenās opinions will immediately change.
Republicans are strongly pro-4th Amendment and are distrustful of the police as well. Getting wrapped up in police raids just because you live in the wrong neighborhood will piss off a LOT of Republicans. And a mass program that forces citizens to ICE / Police / Military into your house (be it a massive push for warrants, or some other mass-scale law) would be a significant number of breaks with the Constitution.
Remember: the Republicans are āDeep Stateā fuckers who distrust federal officials. Do you really think theyād be cool with orders that let police into their private homes?
Doesnāt matter. A fascist at the head of government, whose party is in line behind him, controlling all branches of the federal government, having enough military support, can shush as many opinions as he wants.
Heās already demonstrated over and over that he will do whatever he wants, and dare anyone to stop him. To date, not only has nobody stopped him, or applied a single real consequence, the electorate has seen fit to increase his power.
Republicans used to be strongly opposed to Russia, too, howās that working out?
Iām sure they can put a call out to anyone with a gun and a hatred of immigrants (legal or otherwise) to volunteer to help out. Maybe they can even all have matching bands around their arm so they know who are helping.
Yeah thatās called a US Army Private.
What youāre ignoring is how fucking dumb an 18Y Old with a gun is. Thereās a fucking reason we donāt use them in US Territories. When the bloodshed starts, it will be because dumbass high-school dropouts opened fire in an American neighborhood.
What youāre also ignoring is that US Army commanders know this. They know how dumb their recruits are. Its the job of the commander to make sure the troop under them are put on missions where they have the correct and proper training. A āseriousā Army Commander would refuse any immigration / customs job, because US Military troops are simply NOT trained for this. US Military are trained to kill people and should only be used to kill people. Thatās why we focus on using them outside of the USA.
Like, seriously. Do you expect a 18Y old high school dropout to handle a warrant over a house correctly?
I understand what youāre trying to say, but I do want to clear up some misconceptions people have about U.S. soldiers.
High school drop-outs are not eligible for the U.S. military. GED holders might be if they score high enough on the ASVAB, but itās generally rare.
Also, U.S. military commanders, and officers in general, are both morally and legally required to disobey illegal orders. While the President may be the commander-in-chief, officers swear an oath to the Constitution, not the President.
Thatās why General Milley publicly apologized and considered resigning after unwittingly letting federal troops be used to clear protestors, not knowing Trump wanted it for a photo op instead of legitimate need. Thatās why so many generals called him a threat to democracy. Thatās why Trump fired so many generals, because they wouldnāt go along with his stupid shit.
I have hope that the U.S. active duty military will not get involved in this. I know for sure they donāt want to get involved in this.
Saw this one coming. Heāll do the same to justify ending elections.
