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they do it us is picked intentionally to train ai.

Yes like I said, the challenges were picked to be useful. But some form of challenge would’ve been chosen regardless.

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And you know, far more dense- which is the core of what makes it effective

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They embed for a reason… And the captchas wouldn’t exist if they weren’t embedded anywhere

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No, you’re wrong, the Traffic Light examples ARE specifically to gather data to train models.

No you’re wrong, because the sites that embed those captchas on their page are not doing that to help good.

If people just wanted a good captcha they wouldn’t need hundreds of millions of photos of street lights and bicycles.

Yes, they are getting something productive out of the human labor that would be done anyways. Trust me as a web developer, and web scraper, some kind of captcha is necessary for many free services to be useful/economically viable. The core of a good captcha is just making it marginally more expensive for the scraper/bot than it is for you.

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That’s why companies like Oxylabs exist

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Aren’t these Captchas designed to get training data for AI models anyway?

Yes and no, the captchas are just meant to be hard for computers to solve but easier for humans. People saw that, and thought that “if we’re making people do this might as well have them do something useful” not meant to be malevolent- and the purpose is still stopping bots, training them is a side-effect.

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Just means they’ll get harder, but maybe not for people, just needs to be harder for a computer

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Depends on the case, sometimes its unavoidable.

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Anybody else would have been rendered penniless within a year, tops.

Nobody else has ever been ordered to pay that much, much less in a suit for speech. Wrongful death lawsuits are awarded less than this.

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Other people see the signs than the drivers, a lot of them I think are for kids to nag their parents

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