The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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I’m sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain how this isn’t what it absolutely, positively is.

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Our biggest offender would, but they’re currently serving a 3-day ban for Sealioning (public mod logs are awesome).

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TIL there’s a public mod log

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Yep! And I would suggest everyone look at.

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7 points

Is there a link for this?

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7 points

Don’t worry, he’ll return 2 Lemmy soon.

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-19 points

Hey there! You’re right.

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-20 points

Hi! :)

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8 points

So you’re admitting to sea lioning? Bold move

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-47 points

What an echo-chamber cop-out. Asking for claims to be backed up is trolling

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10 points

Ah! Look what we have here, right on cue.

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47 points

“Anything to beat the ‘duopoly’ of political parties, even if the party is tainted by neo-fascist dark money!”

Absolutely wild mental gymnastics lol

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6 points

They really want a viable third party that peddles red fascism, BSW style.

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Which party isnt tainted by neo-facist dark money?

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You can spare Lemmy the whataboutisms with this one. Everyone is taking a little money from everyone else, but:

Neo-fascists absolutely prefer giving to the Republican Party above all other major parties and vice versa. It’s an open-and-shut case. Hardliners in the party routinely echo anything and everything that gets them brownie points from dictators and the country’s most degenerate billionaires.

The Democratic Party is not perfect (Israel being the elephant in the room, but make no mistake, Bibi 100% wants Trump back in office). But if anyone is pushing back against the return of fascism the most it’s the Dems. And you can see that in hostilities from Republicans and authoritarian governments alike.

The Green Party’s main candidate accepted gifts from the Russian Federation through their news network RT, which is basically a propaganda machine for the government which owns them. Stein’s ads openly said in 2016 that the Greens wanted Hillary to lose, fearmongering nuclear war with Russia. And this year it’s the same old shit with her: just make the Dems lose.

(Side note, Sputnik hired PSL’s Eugene Puryear as a long-time host. Also, PSL also has absolutely insane foreign positions. Like I’ll be the first to say the West is absolutely an imperfect cultural entity, but you don’t gotta just hand it to Putin or Kim Jong Un because they also have a problem with the hegemony.)

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Probably at the stage where it turns into ‘it doesn’t matter since she won’t win anyway, this is just a protest vote to show support for third party.’

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37 points

Third party that are just Russians. What a pathetic way to protest.

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-21 points

Nope.

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Democrats: “If you don’t vote for Kamala you’re a Russian.”

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14 points

You called it!

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The same ones that jillsplain to everyone how her sitting there with Putin is no big deal.

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13 points

You mean Shillsplain?

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7 points

Even better.

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-21 points

I like her.

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-16 points

Right?! Oh wait…

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With all this stuff about Jill coming out, it’s no wonder all the Lemmy.ml and Hexbears are so supportive of her. She’s a Russian asset!

What is the Russian word for Wumao?

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It could just be she made a career out of unsucessfully running for president and doesn’t care where the money came from.

That’s supposedly how the whole Trump mess started.

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13 points

You mean him just wanting to make money by running for president never actually expecting to run and regretting every minute of it while trying to be so vile he could never get elected again only to realize that’s what his base wants?

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Are you confusing the Green candidate, Jill Stein with Claudia De la Cruz, the PSL candidate?

She does deserve praise for taking the correct stance regarding Gaza, but the general consensus of the Greens as a whole is that they’re useless because unlike PSL, they don’t organize between elections.

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She doesn’t give a shit about Gaza.

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Idk, its not like she’s ambivalent. She seems to actually support the genocide.

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She’s against sending weapons to Israel and she’s participated in the protests.

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She’s more anti Israel than quite literally every single member of the dem party.

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Of course they organize between elections. Just because the news doesn’t cover it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. They have parties in local office doing work year round

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I’m not saying she’s not a Russian asset, anyone could be including the people spreading this rumor with no supporting evidence. It’s become a joke online that Democrats will now call anyone they disagree with a Russian asset.

For some reason, on one hand Democrats will claim that peace negotiations between Israel & Palestine are a good thing, but how dare she say that peace negotiations between Ukraine & Russia are important too.

Jill Stein has called Putin a war criminal while Kamala campaigns with a war criminal (Dick Cheney).

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When did “Dick” Cheney campaign for Harris? He said he was voting for her rather than the felon. That’s it. Liz Cheney is the one who spoke at a Harris campaign, not her father.

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He didn’t. And Stein refused to say Putin is a war criminal. John Richard is in here lying through his teeth.

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Lol your defense of her is “anyone could be a Russian asset!” is like a textbook denial list. What’s the next stage?

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The next stage is for you to call me a Russian agent for saying something you don’t like. Textbook denialism would be you presenting facts showing she is loyal to Russia, or working intentionally on their behalf, and then me denying it. Thus far your “evidence” is a Salon article with a headline that doesn’t even represent the story and makes baseless accusations.

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If you have some magical proof that I’m a shill then post it, otherwise shut up and stop pretending that you’re anything more than a thoughtless blue MAGA cultist.

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5 points

When has she campaigned with dick? Show me.

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I don’t really know how to respond to that since you put “dick” in lowercase. If you want to conflate campaign with, with tour with, then by all means go read a dictionary. But if you want to see videos of Harris praising Dick Cheney, thanking him for his support & his service to this country, claiming, that he represents a “healthy” two-party system, then I can send you videos of the campaign events where she’s touring around with his daughter while she makes those statements.

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Is it any different than a socialist that accuses anyone that disagrees with them of being a genocide supporter?

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I mean if you keep funding genocide to the tune of billions when kids can’t eat at school and veterans are homeless, it’s not not supporting genocide.

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48 points

Insurrectionist*

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…I would argue that even insurrectionist is being far, far too lenient. They should be called terrorists. But, yeah, calling them “rioters”…barf.

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They should be called terrorists.

Stein’s campaign also paid $100,000 to a consulting firm, Accelevate, that has worked with Republican campaigns for signature-gathering services.

This is now the bar for “terrorism”?

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Um, what? I’m commenting on the corporate media’s insistence on calling the insurrectionists “rioters”. I think even the term insurrectionist is a bit of a euphemism.

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you: le government is bad, crooked and corrupt. We must seize the means of production!

also you: omg, those inshurexionists… they made the government poopy their pants and punched some cops (we love cops now) TERRORISTS!

Is this even real?

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Ahh yes, seizing the means of production by nullifying a democratic election. Look at what the longshoremen are doing on the East Coast, that is seizing the means comrade.

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Nuance would be your friend, if you understood it. There’s a difference between a fascist uprising, a populist uprising, and a revolution. At this point the leftists understand that one can be far more effective online than in person, and they are killing you into a false sense of security. Marx is your friend, especially Groucho and Karl. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Adolf Eichmann are not.

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I mean if you believe in democratic ownership of the economy then trying to undermine the democracy is basically treason.

Reality though is we’re voting for one faction of elites and another, less competent but more brutal set of elites via an election that has the trappings of democracy. Stealing that is depriving the public of the tiny crumb of choice we have, which honestly should bring out the bloodlust against the Jan 6th people. Why take away our final bit of control?

You’re basically making the argument “Its just a crumb of democracy, why bother?” but for most people in the US it is the last remaining crumb of control over our government and expecting people to surrender it entirely to elites is some insane shit.

Elites here are generally the economic elites: Musk, Gates, Bezos, other corporate CEOs who would love nothing more than to take away the public’s final bit of influence over government.

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they made the government poopy their pants

If this had been a private property owned by one of your favorite mega-corps rather than the legislature’s main office, I suspect you libertarians would be singing a different tune.

What is it about the Non-Aggression Principle that just melts away for the Reich-Wing Party when its a mob of anti-immigrant psychos busting a cop’s head open with a flag pole?

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I’m an insurrectionary anarchist. please don’t associate them with me.

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You have my upvote!

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Same, when I saw Jan 6 my first thought was “damn imagine if we anarchists could organize like that and just storm the government”. Hopefully one day

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I was shouting “wrong side” at my tv screen. for some reason I thought there would be a black bloc out that day.

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Nothing about this story or Jill is important except for one thing. She is aligned with Putin in denying Ukraine weapons to defend itself. She may not be purposefully supporting Putin but she is supporting his position and making his position stronger ignoring Putin’s past patterns of behavior.

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I wonder where she got the money from?

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Uncle Putin?

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Her trust fund. (And other rich idiots who think giving her money cleans them of sins of capitalism)

She’s just a rich bored kid who wants the attention like pretty much all politicians these days other than the prostitutes the Republicans bring in to slow proceedings in a way they expect to be able to control by being the source of their money.

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Dick Cheney? Oh wait, that is the war criminal an actual Presidential candidate is campaigning with.

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That’s a nice change from the genocide stuff!

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