The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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With all this stuff about Jill coming out, it’s no wonder all the Lemmy.ml and Hexbears are so supportive of her. She’s a Russian asset!

What is the Russian word for Wumao?

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I’m not saying she’s not a Russian asset, anyone could be including the people spreading this rumor with no supporting evidence. It’s become a joke online that Democrats will now call anyone they disagree with a Russian asset.

For some reason, on one hand Democrats will claim that peace negotiations between Israel & Palestine are a good thing, but how dare she say that peace negotiations between Ukraine & Russia are important too.

Jill Stein has called Putin a war criminal while Kamala campaigns with a war criminal (Dick Cheney).

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Is it any different than a socialist that accuses anyone that disagrees with them of being a genocide supporter?

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I mean if you keep funding genocide to the tune of billions when kids can’t eat at school and veterans are homeless, it’s not not supporting genocide.

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When has she campaigned with dick? Show me.

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I don’t really know how to respond to that since you put “dick” in lowercase. If you want to conflate campaign with, with tour with, then by all means go read a dictionary. But if you want to see videos of Harris praising Dick Cheney, thanking him for his support & his service to this country, claiming, that he represents a “healthy” two-party system, then I can send you videos of the campaign events where she’s touring around with his daughter while she makes those statements.

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Lol your defense of her is “anyone could be a Russian asset!” is like a textbook denial list. What’s the next stage?

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The next stage is for you to call me a Russian agent for saying something you don’t like. Textbook denialism would be you presenting facts showing she is loyal to Russia, or working intentionally on their behalf, and then me denying it. Thus far your “evidence” is a Salon article with a headline that doesn’t even represent the story and makes baseless accusations.

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If you have some magical proof that I’m a shill then post it, otherwise shut up and stop pretending that you’re anything more than a thoughtless blue MAGA cultist.

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When did “Dick” Cheney campaign for Harris? He said he was voting for her rather than the felon. That’s it. Liz Cheney is the one who spoke at a Harris campaign, not her father.

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He didn’t. And Stein refused to say Putin is a war criminal. John Richard is in here lying through his teeth.

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Are you confusing the Green candidate, Jill Stein with Claudia De la Cruz, the PSL candidate?

She does deserve praise for taking the correct stance regarding Gaza, but the general consensus of the Greens as a whole is that they’re useless because unlike PSL, they don’t organize between elections.

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She doesn’t give a shit about Gaza.

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She’s against sending weapons to Israel and she’s participated in the protests.

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She’s more anti Israel than quite literally every single member of the dem party.

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Idk, its not like she’s ambivalent. She seems to actually support the genocide.

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Of course they organize between elections. Just because the news doesn’t cover it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. They have parties in local office doing work year round

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It could just be she made a career out of unsucessfully running for president and doesn’t care where the money came from.

That’s supposedly how the whole Trump mess started.

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You mean him just wanting to make money by running for president never actually expecting to run and regretting every minute of it while trying to be so vile he could never get elected again only to realize that’s what his base wants?

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I never see positive posts about Kamala because centrist Dems know that there isn’t anything they can post about her that will be actually appealing so their only tactic is to beat up on the anti-war leftist candidate as much and as often as possible

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You’re kidding, right? Right now, the front page consists of whatever stupid shit Trump has done recently, downvoted crap pushing Putin’s favorite “anti-war leftist candidate,” and positive news about Kamala Harris and her campaign.

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What positive news about Harris? All I’ve seen is her make statements assuring the population that she’s right of center

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Seriously? I’m actually growing sick of all the positive posts I see about her. I feel like the support is overwhelmingly positive and extensive on here to the point where some people lose touch with reality.

However, I see you are from a different instance, so it’s entirely possible that we are not seeing the same feed. Cannot see what you are seeing from where I’m standing.

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Do you have an example of a positive post about her?

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-28 points

Democrats litigate to deny a candidate ballot access, candidate hires non-democrat lawyer to defend herself and democracy.

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Probably quite a few “non-democrat” lawyers that didn’t storm congress. Weird how she chose one who did and that wasn’t a dealbreaker for her. 🤔

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Oh yeah you knew all about this firm and all of its members activities before this story. Theres just so many ballot access consultancy firms specifically fighting against democrats efforts to obstruct democracy.

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Are you saying no lawyer should represent a defendant? If those lawyers didn’t represent the defendants, who would? The Constitution mandates that defendants have competent legal representation.

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This is about the guy doing the storming, not the lawyer defending that guy.

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In Nevada, the Democratic Party initiated a lawsuit to exclude the Green Party from the ballot, claiming the party used the wrong form to collect signatures from voters. The Green Party appealed the case and was represented by Jay Sekulow, an attorney who defended Trump throughout his impeachment trials (last week, the Nevada Supreme Court rejected Stein’s bid to be put back on the ballot).

In Wisconsin, Democratic National Committee employee David Strange sought to remove Stein from the ballot by arguing the Green Party can’t nominate presidential electors without legislative candidates eligible to do so. The Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear the case. Stein was again legally represented by a Trump-affiliated lawyer, Michael D. Dean, who was involved in lawsuits that attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election, the Journal reported.

From another article:

The affidavit originally submitted with the Green Party’s petition in July 2023 was the correct one. However, because the petition that the Green Party submitted contained a separate mistake, an employee in the secretary of state’s office sent the party a sample petition that included the wrong affidavit – for use with petitions to put initiatives and referenda on the ballot. As a result, the affidavits that the Green Party later submitted with its petitions did not contain the attestation required for access to the ballot.

The secretary of state eventually announced that the Green Party had submitted enough signatures to qualify for the 2024 general election ballot.

The Nevada Democratic Party went to state court in June of this year, arguing that the signatures were invalid because the Green Party had used the wrong affidavit.

On Aug. 12, the state trial court ruled in favor of the Green Party, but on Sept. 6 a divided Nevada Supreme Court reversed. It concluded that the attestation that the Green Party had failed to include “serves an essential purpose.” Therefore, the majority reasoned, allowing the Green Party to have its candidates on the ballot when it had not fulfilled all of the prerequisites to do so would nullify “the requirements that were put in place for the public’s benefit.”

SCOTUS ruled with the Nevada Supreme Court and chose to keep the Green Party off the ballot. Their only real mistake here was really just some legal red tape filled out incorrectly. It doesn’t really matter if Jill Stein is a terrible candidate or not, the two party system will clearly go to the ends of the earth to kill 3rd parties from every becoming a thing lol. I guess it matters more for democrats since green party would be taking out more of their votes than republicans.

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See also: the Dems suing to kick Claudia De La Crúz off the ballot in Georgia and PA. “Democrats” in name-only.

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Exactly! Good point!

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The DNC seems overly happy to use bureaucracy as a cludgel to reduce options “legally” to themselves.

While I get the fear beating down your competition in an underhanded manner doesn’t inspire a whole lot of good will and also seems extremely unlikely to get the people you have just disenfranchised to vote on your side.

They resist any movement or adoption of new policy in favor of it staying as stagnant as possible. It’s a deeply confusing and long term failing idea. Just look at how Kamala is now polling worse with each passing week. She felt like change and initial momentum of “joy” was able to carry her a little but it’s not a permanent state and the initial dopamine is running out.

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I honestly feel it. They took the high road for like a month. Back to slinging shit though they go. What a joke. How is anyone supposed to trust them?

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They had the momentum of a new candidate and it was full of excitement for new policy then she was seemingly told to not change things still.

I mean literally pro gun and loose company first economic policies are early 2000 Republican policy. So now it’s instead just focus on how shitty the orange bastard is, which is a low bar to easily walk over.

It really does feel disingenuous to blame people uninspired by that and to claim it’s a fixing party. I get the other option but people need to not act like angels when stagnant bullies that refuse to budge or listen anymore.

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The affidavit originally submitted with the Green Party’s petition in July 2023 was the correct one. However, because the petition that the Green Party submitted contained a separate mistake, an employee in the secretary of state’s office sent the party a sample petition that included the wrong affidavit – for use with petitions to put initiatives and referenda on the ballot. As a result, the affidavits that the Green Party later submitted with its petitions did not contain the attestation required for access to the ballot.

Wow.

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Wow, Dems actually exercised power in a legal manner to improve their chances. That is wild. Hope they don’t break their backs slapping themselves.

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They will always do it so long as it weakens the left. The DNC exists to badger any left of center movement toward their center right position, and even put DNC funds to extremist right winger campaigns boosting Christian nationalist platforms… learning nothing from clintons pied piper failures only pushing us all closer to a fascist hellscape just to say guess we vote blue since we have nowhere else to go. Fuck Jill Stein and all but this is the exact shit that leaves me voting for literally any socialist instead.

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And the left exists to siphon votes towards the right. See? Unsubstantiated claims work both ways.

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I mean I agree with everything you said about democrats, but I don’t view voting as some endorsement of a system or party. I vote for the conditions I want to organize under.

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Sort of upsetting all your up votes are from people that are happy Nevada “beat” Jill Stein, which is not really the point I think you are making.

I agree that its shameful behavior from the democrats. I wish they would consider why they’ve lost 2 million people to the Green party rather than try to ban them.

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I was referencing the amount of votes they got in recent elections, although in 2016 it was 1.5 million not 2, so my bad there.

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Do you ant Jill shills understand how corrupt the Democratic party is? Biden straight up supported segregation and Kamala jailed poor children’s parents because they skipped school.

And there’s countless times Democrats have collaborated with Republicans.

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So your response os to let trump win?

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So you’re saying the slavery preserving Electoral College is my fault?

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Yes, it is if you don’t do anything about it.

‘hurdur I am voting for a party that never wins. I am sure love helping!’ People have died for less and here you are bitching and crying like a little first world brat because your ego wont let you do what little you can to actually help. Hate the electorial college? The democrats are the only chance you have at switching to the popular vote. But you don’t actually care.

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When you protest vote? Yes. That is what people are saying.

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Imagine defending Stein’s lack of empathy for the genocide in Ukraine… even just remotely.

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As close as we are to the election, they’re getting more desperate.

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bOtH sIdEs

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Oy, you are gonna make people angry with this comment, friend! Good luck! lol

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Do you Shill Stein supporters know what whataboutism is? It’s 2024. Someone HAD to have explained it to you by now.

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Anti Jill Shills?

Wait… You mean some of you are actually getting paid to publicly point out this flawed candidates’s clear record of failure/inaction, especially dirty funding sources, “interesting” vodka scented dinner parties and clear intentions as a spoiler candidate working purely on behalf of conservatives?

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🥱

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What is this? A Jill for ants? It needs to be at least 3 times bigger!

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I understood this reference

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