Kamala Harris has launched her campaign for the White House, after President Joe Biden stepped aside Sunday under pressure from party leaders.

The vice president has Biden’s endorsement, and is unchallenged as yet for the Democratic nomination, which will be formally decided at the Aug. 19 convention in Chicago.

“I am honored to have the President’s endorsement and my intention is to earn and win this nomination,” Harris said in a statement. “I will do everything in my power to unite the Democratic Party—and unite our nation—to defeat Donald Trump and his extreme Project 2025 agenda. We have 107 days until Election Day. Together, we will fight. And together, we will win.”

In her statement, the vice president paid tribute to Biden’s “extraordinary leadership,” saying he had achieved more in one term than many presidents do in two.

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I don’t think she stands a chance running as a VP. However, if President Biden were to invoke Article 25, and abdicate in favor of his VP. I honestly think she’d be a lock to win.

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Sorry but what do you see as the difference?

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I think she gets a huge bounce if she’s the President thrust into a role she did not ask for or seek. It’s a pretty typical human reaction to cheer for people forced by circumstance into an unexpected role. I think she also gets four months to show that she’s Presidential material.

So that’s the pragmatic part. I also believe that President Biden has shown he’s incapable of governing, and that we have rules regarding that situation. In fact that’s why we have the position of VP.

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a role she did not ask for or seek.

She sought it in 2019 (ran for the office) but dropped out early in the primaries.

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I understand your idea with your first paragraph, but it also ties Harris down to the White House instead of freeing her to campaign, and get her own name out there. If there are any events beyond her control, while she’s President, she would also be on the hook for those.

Biden’s actually pretty good and he is, or at least his staff is, getting a lot of positive things done, as long as he’s off camera. That’s been true throughout his career.

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Lol, im sure its just a coicidence that you are parroting the GOP by calling on Biden to resign the presidency right now.

No, it would not strengthen her campaign if her running mate made the entirely unprecedented move of resigning in office for no stated reason. The procedural shitshow a GOP house would make the process would become the whole news cycle until the election.

She is a much, much stronger canidate in her current role, being able to brag about every Biden/Harris accomplishment and not have any baggage of an active presidency, especially one that would be assumed in a ginned up shit show by her politcal opponents.

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No, it would not strengthen her campaign if her running mate made the entirely unprecedented move of resigning in office for no stated reason

“Health reasons”. Maybe he checks into a hospital announces it from there.

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Absolutely correct.

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Okay, so now you have an excuse. So this kicks off a living shitshow in the Republican controlled house as article 25 is invoked. You have a circus that lets Republicans go on and on and on, stalling as best they can, starting hearing, etc. The GOP gets endless media attention when they would otherwise be on the backfoot to all the energizing postive press the dems are about to get. The GOP gets to grandstand, they get to sue, maybe the supreme court weighs in, making it look like Democrats can’t handle the presidency.

In what way is that a positive for the Harris campaign?

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She can also campaign full time, unlike Biden who was also doing the job of president while he was campaigning

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You might want to actually go read Article 25 if you believe there would be a Republican controlled shit-show.

Republicans have no say under section 1. President Biden says “I’m out” and Vice President Harris becomes President. Congress has no say, the Senate had no say, nobody has any say but the President and the Vice President.

The President could give a reason, or he could choose not to do so.

The only time Congress is involved is under Section 4.

Section 1 covers everything from “Take this job and shove it” to “I’m tired and want to spend more time with my family”

I repeat Congress has no say. There is no political debate. There is simply “I’m out, you’re in.”

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First off, this congress will gin up a hearing on anything, then sue when it doesnt go their way. Second off, in this situation the house and senate has to approve the new VP. They 100% will make that an absolute clown show.

Those circumstances are provided for in the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which was passed in 1967. Section 2 states:

“Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.”

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Harris/Kelly ‘24!

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Who is Kelly?

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Damnit, he’s a doctor not a VP!

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My heart fluttered seeing that. 🥰

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I would not be surprised if John Glenn’s failed presidential bid poisoned the idea of a former astronaut as VP candidate in the eyes of the DNC. They’re all old.

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Senator Mark Kelly, AZ

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Senator, astronaut, navy captain, identical twin, and straight white man.

And his wife is Gabby Giffords, a former congresswoman who survived being shot in the head in an assassination attempt (and I mean actually shot in the head, not just a grazed ear).

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Now we just need to get Trump to step down. Then we can have a less insane election.

He really should. He has no business running.

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Even if the assassin had finished the job, his cult would prop his corpse up and wait for him to come back to life.

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That would have been fine.

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I think I would shit my pants from happiness if that happened

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I think we’d all shit your pants.

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Rumour has it that Trump shits his pants, or at least pisses his pants. There was a whole “real men wear nappies” thing in support of him when it was around.

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Now we just need to get Trump to step down. Then we can have a less insane election.

If that hands the GOP nomination to Vance, then Vance would completely destroy any of the Democrats who the Dem establishment could possibly let run. This was obvious on watching about a minute of Vance’s VP acceptance speech on the news. Dems should be careful what they ask for.

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Oh I thought he was a huge liability being absolutely full of baggage. Insane things he’s said, including that trump is America’s Hitler (mind you that’s only insane to cultists)

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And also the fact that he’s an obvious ivy league elite who pretends to be a “common man.”

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No one in GOP has a cult following like Donald.

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lol 🤣 no one gives a shit about Vance, get real.

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then Vance would completely destroy any of the Democrats who the Dem establishment could possibly let run.

Well…

In February, during an episode of Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast, Vance said that he cared more about the security of the US southern border than the Russian troop build-up near Ukraine. “I gotta be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another,” Vance said.

““Indigenous Peoples’ Day” is a fake holiday created to sow division. Of course Joe Biden is the first president to pay it any attention.”

“I am as pro life as anyone, and I want to save as many babies as possible. This is not about moral legitimacy but political reality.”

“There are dozens of people who protested on J6 who haven’t even been charged with a crime yet are being mistreated in DC prisons. A friend suggested the below link if you’re able to support them.”

Vance said that Trump should “fire every single mid-level bureaucrat” in the US government and “replace them with our people.” If the courts attempt to stop this, Vance says, Trump should simply ignore the law. “You stand before the country, like Andrew Jackson did, and say the chief justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it,” he declares. The President Jackson quote is likely apocryphal, but the history is real. Vance is referring to an 1832 case, Worcester v. Georgia, in which the Supreme Court ruled that the US government needed to respect Native legal rights to land ownership. Jackson ignored the ruling, and continued a policy of allowing whites to take what belonged to Natives. The end result was the ethnic cleansing of about 60,000 Natives — an event we now call the Trail of Tears.

Yeah, Democrats will sure have a tough time with him…

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Well, maybe you’re right, I had basically never heard of Vance until Trump picked him. But his acceptance speech was written to eat the Democrats’ lunch, since they weren’t willing to eat it themselves. And that stuff you quoted will delight Trump supporters, and maybe not bother too many Democrats.

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As an ohioian, I can assure you no one gives a shit about vance and he stands for nothing. He’s a Muppet who says what he’s told to say

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Yeah nobody here likes him

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I don’t think we can have a president with one fucking ear anyway.

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Just use Trump’s words. “I prefer presidents that don’t get shot 🤷‍♂️”

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There’s just no way.

It’s all or bust for trump. He’s not gonna choose bust.

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He won’t choose it… no.

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AOC rationalizes selling out her principles to unite the big tent and become part of the dynastic club as VP.

Newsom ensures neoliberal outcomes with appeal to neoliberals and fence Republicans as Pres.

The big tent unites. Democrats win.

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We don’t stand a chance with her as the pick. Whitmer would’ve been a much better president pick

You can downvote all you want the polls show dems still losing with her as the pick

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She hasn’t even started campaigning yet, and she was even to Joe or even better.

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She literally has been campaigning? She is the VP she campaigns with Joe. She’s in the public eye, people know her and she still trails trump

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She has been campaigning… For Biden. That’s the difference between being the backup singer and the lead singer at a concert. Sure the backup singer is still on stage and singing, but it’s just to support the lead singer, not to show off their own talent

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How can you possibly think that makes sense?

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She’s barely in the public eye. When Jimmy Kimmel had her on his show, he did one of his ‘ask the people on Hollywood boulevard’ segments where he asked them who the VP was and people just kept getting it wrong or didn’t even know.

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No change this late would have been the best pick. Now the Dems just hand Trump the presidency. Maybe because they are scared of what Trump will do to them so they try to ally with him?

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Polls, polls, polls.

First, it’s Biden is too old. Now, it is polls, which have time and time been proven to not mean shit.

Since you apparently forgot the last time polls were discussed so much

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/what-happened-red-wave

Cheers.

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For me it’s always polls, I don’t care about Bidens ages I want someone who can for sure beat this shit stain (trump) and keep him out for good

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I agree Whitmer would be the best chance at beating Trump in general.

But I do think that Harris can still do that job and that there’s logistical reasons why it’s going to be that.

I wish we’d have Whitmer, but I’m not terrified of it being Harris the way I was if Biden stayed in the race.

And if she picks a good VP that helps round out the ticket with the middle of the country, I could see the new ticket getting momentum.

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