176 points

Fetterman really is a mixed bag, and to be honest, I kind of like that. Life should be full of nuanced characters, I shouldn’t have to decide between the same cookie cutter pieces of shit we have every election.

He’s a piece of shit for supporting Israel so staunchly, don’t get me wrong, but there’s also plenty to like about him.

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When I worked for Allegheny county I ended up in a number of meetings with him, and have spent time speaking with him casually. What he did in Braddock was top notch governance. He pushed a very progressive agenda, and fought with everyone in the local government over it, but he mostly got his way, and stopped Braddock from being a food desert, increased the graduation rates, and a number of other major QOL metrics. He is very pro-labor, and pro-labor organization.

He did support Israel, but he admitted that a lot of what was happening there left a bad taste in his mouth. I don’t if it was the stroke, or he sold out to AIPAC, but he has turned hard line on that, apparently. I

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37 points

Even a stopped clock can be right twice a day.

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32 points

Its more like, even a decent clock goes off during daylight savings. Or something idk

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17 points

If a clock was a muscle car, and the american election was the engine, the minute hand would be the bumper stickers and the hour hand would be a bald eagle

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3 points

It’s still blinking 12:00 after a power outage and needs reset.

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9 points

And a clock running backwards even 4 times a day

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8 points

Sometimes even a calculator is a clock.

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5 points

Mine just says 58008 weird.

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1 point

A taste of a multi party system

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85 points

If anyone cares to read “Project 2025,” it’s a blueprint for creating a Judge Dredd universe, where the only people still living in it will be the Super Rich and the Super F*cking Poor.

That’s a bad thing, by the way.

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For us folks who doesn’t know Judge Dredd, got any summary, links or whatever?

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32 points

Universe where an armed police force are Judges, Juries, and Executioners.

Following a nuclear war in 2070, the United States is reduced to MegaCity 1, covering the Eastern Seaboard, and MegaCity 2, covering the West Coast.

In between is a nuclear wasteland called “The Cursed Earth”.

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7 points

You forgot Texas City

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https://youtu.be/4NCtpXG6Az4?si=DzjmTdT87Jl3Jfrp

Basically insane authority and complete corruption

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9 points

If you have the time, watch the movie “Dredd” (2012). It’s Karl Urban being fucking awesome.

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7 points

I’m sold. Sailing tonight.

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4 points

2012 movie with Karl Urban is rad as hell.

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66 points

Fetterman is a good person to go on Fox because he looks like a significant portion of their viewers

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He also shares a very large portion of the core beliefs of the old Republican party. In the 1960s he would’ve likely been considered center right.

It’s crazy that endorsing medicare and social support structures makes him a Democrat now.

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It’s not crazy, it’s intentional. Poor education combined with the lack of social structure creates a voting population ripe with anger over the shitty system and looking to blame someone instead of learn why it’s like that.

Conservative media is specially made to take uneducated and rage blind voters and churn out Republican candidates who pretty much only hold office because of manufactured spite towards democrats.

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3 points

Yes, informed voters are less likely to vote against their own interests.

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7 points

Yeah he’s no democrat anymore. Since he hit his head he’s been sliding to the republicans

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10 points

This is a ridiculous viewpoint, the Democrats are a center right party. Here in Canada they would be considered conservative.

He supports healthcare and workers’ rights, he’s a Democrat.

Or at this point the Republicans are so cracked that straight up “if he doesn’t support Project 2025, he’s a Democrat”

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8 points

Honestly for his region in Pennsylvania, he’s to the left still.

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18 points

It’s a shame he went full Zionist over donor money.

But Project 2025 is just basic conservatism. It is a wishlist that should shock no one for existing because it’s pretty much verbatim what right wingers have demanded since pretty much ever.

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And it’s not like it’s trump specific.

They’ve wanted to do this shit longer than even Biden has been alive.

If trump dropped dead right now, the replacement would do the same stuff. Whatever republican running in 2036 will still want to finish up what hasn’t been done yet.

trump is a symptom, he might be the symptom that kills us, but just removing trump doesn’t solve the underlying problem.

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It’s the Heritage Foundation ffs.

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I’m inclined to think that his brain damage was the root cause (which led to accepting the bribes donations) - the timing was right, and only the brain-damaged would be Zionist at this point.

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Just because someone with access to intelligence doesn’t believe that what’s happening in Gaza amounts to genocide does not mean that they are some religious fanatic zionist.

You realize virtually everyone in Washington agrees with Fetterman about what’s happening in Gaza? You realize most Western democracies, their heads of state, along with their state and national security apparatuses, all agree that there is no genocide happening in Gaza?

Maybe you simply have the calculus wrong? Have you considered that possibility?

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Everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a paid operative.

I guess all their heads of state, displomats, intelligence, and national security wonks who disagree with you are also all being paid by some global cabal of Jews that you have imagined.

Yes, block me, and go further into your echo chamber of self delusion.

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Because 40 thousand dead out of a population of millions equates to genocide. The number includes the savage Hamas terrorists you love so much as well. Maybe you just simply don’t understand the calculus or what a genocide truly is. Thank Israel they don’t show you.

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Bald death tolls say nothing of whether or not something fits the statutory definition of genocide. People die in wars. Innocent people die in wars.

Hamas started a war on behalf of all these victims that they could not possibly win. The de facto government refuses to surrender or release hostages. They refuse to wear uniforms. They employ child soldiers. They build tunnels under dense population centers to use the population at large as human shields. They refuse to let their own families evacuate. They pay people to die as “martyrs.” That’s why there are 40,000 out of 5,000,000 Palestinians dead, 0.8%.

That death toll, in these circumstances, is not evidence of genocide, it is actually evidence that Israel is pretty careful and actually not trying to kill civilians. Any other Army in that region of the world would have murdered every man woman and child in Gaza after about the tenth suicide bombing, forty odd years ago. It’s 40,000 out of 5 million in the face of the fact that Israel could easily turn all of Gaza and all of the West Bank into a sheet of glass in three hours, and have not done so. They could have let no food or water into the country, no medicine into the country. But they have not done so. Rather, they have been consistently ramping up their capacity to inspect shipments going into Gaza since the war broke out. They could have not evacuated anyone. They could have not called anyone on the phone, they could have sent zero text messages, instead of the millions and millions of phone calls and texts that they’ve sent. These facts, obviously none of which are reported in the Qatari media you no doubt have been gorging on, fly in the face of your bullshit reasoning.

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Oh. Project 2025… Okay. I was really confused.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_25

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Give Fetterman a break. He had jet lag and a cold. /s

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Everyone has bad days. It’s been a while since Fetterman has done an interview. He’s been busy performing the duties of his office.

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