242 points

Because he’s done more to fix our healthcare system than any politician.

permalink
report
reply
105 points

I wouldn’t say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.

This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump’s cabinet picks.

permalink
report
parent
reply
51 points

as we just elected them

That’s because the system is rigged. We can only ever choose between one rich person and another.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

You can’t compare Harris and Trump in that regard whatsoever

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I mean, Anthem did back down from that stupid policy about time limit anesthesia

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

To fix is not the same thing as fixed. He’s done more towards fixing the problem. This said, it’s very important to reiterate, as you have, that nearly NOTHING hss still been accomplished.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

We need more Luigis for some more fixing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

He can fix us.

permalink
report
parent
reply
48 points

I just saw the news that they’ve charged him with terrorism. It’s like they want to keep the outrage going, and give the jury a reason to acquit.

permalink
report
reply
22 points

Not guilty. You can only murder human beings. Brian Robert Thompson willingly relinquished his humanity a long time ago. What Luigi did was more akin to using bleach to treat mold in the bathroom. Killing a living thing? Yes. Murder? Certainly not.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Daniel Jackson: It’s obviously fighting to survive.

O’Neill: So do bacteria!

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Oh, one Luigi damaged your world? Institute health care reform, or we’ll send dozens of them, one after the other!

God. How was SG1 so damn good? Every few years I do a rewatch of the whole franchise. It’s a masterpiece.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

They’ve charged Brian Thompson with terrorism for what he did - or at least caused - to tens of thousands of people each year?
Finally they start to make sense!

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

18 people died since you made this comment due to UHC greed.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

They can charge him with whatever they want. Proving it to a jury is a whole other thing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*

Most life insurance policies don’t cover acts of terrorism.

I’m just saying…

permalink
report
parent
reply
115 points

This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.

This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”

This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.

This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.

No I didn’t read the article.

permalink
report
reply
16 points

The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage.

Given his falling out with his ex-wife and penchant for alcoholism, they’re arguably better off without him, assuming he wasn’t already a deadbeat dad.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Sure. Can you explain why this guy gets charged with terrorism, but school shooters and Jan 6ers don’t?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Perception management, probably. I thought terrorism applied to upsetting state entities not private ones. How, by any stretch of the imagination, is a private health insurance company part of the United States government? It’s bizarre. Jan 6 would fall under that umbrella for sure.

What do you think?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

My thoughts is they’re making an example of him because he went after the true ruling class - CEOs. And the Jan 6 ers went after “the help” so the cops don’t care. Just like when the children of the masses are gunned down in schools. Get a school shooter at the private academy the president’s kids all attend and suddenly the ruling class will care.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

Just curious, what do you mean by “gun arguments aside”?

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

I’m a gun owner. There is a subset of people who think that alone makes you unhinged as a human being.

Luigi is just crazy enough to do what he did (allegedly). Probably not even a gun owner beyond an engineer guy makes this tool/thing on his printer and then learns how to become proficient using that tool/thing. I don’t think Luigi was LARPing training exercises with an AK, with friends, in the northern MI woods. I think he probably approached it the same way the rest of us would approach learning Linux for our next PC build.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I see, thanks for the clarification! I thought you were referring to the actual manifesto, and I was going to point out that the supposed real one didn’t mention guns at all, but if I recall correctly the fake one did. So never mind me.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-98 points
*

The killer is not threatening to you until semeone decides that you deserve to be killed.

permalink
report
parent
reply
64 points

I would say that if you find this particular killer’s motives personally threatening, you should probably resign from your day job and move into your bunker.

permalink
report
parent
reply
23 points

Have you killed thousands of people through insurance denials to make a quick buck? No?

Then you’re fine.

permalink
report
parent
reply
28 points

Yes, exactly. I don’t think there is anyone in the world who knows me and believes that I, specifically, deserve to be killed. I think almost every person feels the same way. The rare exception being someone who has intentionally profoundly harmed or killed people.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

semeone decides

I would simply not deny Luigi his health care. And I’d sleep easy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

Someone else may decide to kill you for a different reason.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

Someone, maybe, a fair point. It will probably happen at work if at all given the boring, “helper” life I lead.

But not this guy. That’s the salient point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points
*

That’s the point. “WHY” did they decide it had to be you.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

I haven’t killed tens of thousands of sick people so I’m safe.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-8 points

Someone might decide that something else you did is wrong.

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

You mean someone like Brian Thompson?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

You mean Brian Robert Thompson?

It’s a long standing tradition to refer to serial killers by their full name. Think John Wayne Gacy. It seems appropriate here.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

You watch yourself on that slippery slope now.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Found the CEO!

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I see you getting downvoted but a lot of doctors get death threats too, and while everyone seems to have a horror story about a doctor they didn’t like, I’m pretty sure most are the scapegoats of a broken system. So yeah, while Luigi’s target was well-chosen, I don’t trust every vigilante to be as smart.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points
*

a lot of doctors get death threats too

I gotta wonder at the folks who have bombed (or threatened to bomb) abortion clinics and been lionized by pro-Life advocates. Even granted clemency by ultra-right wing Republican governors.

None of them seem particularly enthusiastic about this slaying, though.

So yeah, while Luigi’s target was well-chosen, I don’t trust every vigilante to be as smart.

The starkest comparison I’ve seen is Daniel Perry - who strangled a man to death on the subway - getting box seats with the President/VP and a full throated cheer from folks on the right.

Meanwhile, Luigi has enormous mainstream appeal, but enjoys virtually no positive coverage among liberals on the left.

The division is stark. It’s very obvious that vigilantism is encouraged by the state when it targets certain people. CEOs just aren’t on the approved list.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

If the person you’re replying to was a health insurance CEO I would be extremely supportive of that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
88 points

the bullet etchings alone make it a work of art. He picked out the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america. Its very much a masterwork execution at a time when everybody wanted a reprieve from the trump media circus.

Timing: 10/10

Execution: 9/10

Target 10/10

Style: 10/10

We live in a country this happens every day I would take a CEO death over a Sandy Hook every time. I wish shootings weren’t as common but it is what it is.

permalink
report
reply
19 points

the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america.

Too bad that’s not trump :(

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

With my limited view from Germany, thank God that it is not Trump. Presidents come and go, Democrats and Republicans swap places every now and then, but at the end, the US stays an oligarchy. By killing Trump you don’t change much, you might create a public outrage, but it’s like popping a pimple without addressing the acne. It might lead to an even bigger divide within the working class - those who were fooled into voting for Trump vs Democrats vs disappointed, disillusioned Democrats. One of the problems of the election was that not enough left leaning people saw the Democrats as much different from the Republicans, and they are right. Killing a politician would just distract from the problem even more. Just think of how much momentum Trump (and his movement) gained from the assassination attempt.

Here, for once in months, when we see tiktoks or other clips from the public, we cannot even tell immediately where they lean politically - we just see that everyone is fed up with the same crap. Now both left and right, united, experience how the media lies to them and tells a skewed narrative. This is amazing. I sincerely hope it will not die, I hope this will grow and continue to spread like a cancer through society.

It is sad that it took the murder of a person and a young man’s freedom for this.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

No no, I didn’t say I wish for him to be shot - that’s for separate discussion - I just wish he was the most unloved. Daydreaming…

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

I don’t know. Trump is special. I’m hoping more "divine smiting’ for him. For a man that so seems to have the Devil’s charisma behind him, what more fitting end could there be than to die by lightning strike?

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

Him being forced to actually work at McDonald’s to pay for his own rent and food.

But I will accept prison the rest of his life as a consolation prize.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Walking the plank or hanged by the city wall maybe?

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Don’t give up hope. He’s had 3 attempts already, hoping #4 is a better shot

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*

If we were the principled society we pretend to others that we are, we would prefer 100 ceos to 1 Sandy Hook. CEO’s would be all for it as well.
But capitalism doesnt breed a lot of impulses to sacrifice for the greater good. “eff those peasants” is practically explicitely baked into it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Personally I would appreciate the irony of school shooters instead going after gun manufacturer executives. I like my justice delivered ironically.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Execution: 9/10

Apart from the fact that he was caught by sitting in a public place and getting recognized, rather than laying low and staying out of public view for a while.

Assuming it’s actually Luigi. Not sure there’s even definitive proof yet.

permalink
report
parent
reply
119 points

No shit… The gaping hole is the fact rich fucks are all we have to vote for. The President that recently won is the biggest example of undeserved wealth and power ever.

permalink
report
reply
54 points

Tell ya what. I’m struggling to make rent right now. Working 6 days a week, living alone, just keeping my head above water.

2028, everybody vote for me, and I’ll run on the platform of giving rich people the middle finger.

Like Robin Hood…except vulgar.

permalink
report
parent
reply
25 points

You have my vote

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

And my axe!

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

You can’t afford to even run. You gonna start a gofundme?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’d vote for you. Especially if by middle finger you mean 90% top marginal tax rate.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

If someone ran for governor of NY on a platform of giving Luigi a full pardon, they would win in a landslide.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

In theory, couldn’t Luigi run for president from jail?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

You are delusional if you think that elections are not just a horse race for the rich and that common people have any power. If common people interests were what drives elections you would have had free healthcare, free education, worker right and more like a century ago.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Robin Fucking Hood? RFH!!! It has s ring! Sure I’ll vote for you!

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

You won me over

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Eh, feels very populist and single issue. What’s your plan for healthcare like?

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Tbf whatever they come up with will most likely be better than whats currently happening.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Give it to the people who need it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

you had me at “gaping hole”

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

We need to bring back “No taxation without representation” because rich fucks sure as hell can’t fairly represent the rest of us.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Well you see the problem is that its ‘no taxation for the represented’ oops.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Uplifting News

!upliftingnews@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to /c/UpliftingNews, a dedicated space where optimism and positivity converge to bring you the most heartening and inspiring stories from around the world. We strive to curate and share content that lights up your day, invigorates your spirit, and inspires you to spread positivity in your own way. This is a sanctuary for those seeking a break from the incessant negativity often found in today’s news cycle. From acts of everyday kindness to large-scale philanthropic efforts, from individual achievements to community triumphs, we bring you news that gives hope, fosters empathy, and strengthens the belief in humanity’s capacity for good.

Here in /c/UpliftingNews, we uphold the values of respect, empathy, and inclusivity, fostering a supportive and vibrant community. We encourage you to share your positive news, comment, engage in uplifting conversations, and find solace in the goodness that exists around us. We are more than a news-sharing platform; we are a community built on the power of positivity and the collective desire for a more hopeful world. Remember, your small acts of kindness can be someone else’s big ray of hope. Be part of the positivity revolution; share, uplift, inspire!

Community stats

  • 3.9K

    Monthly active users

  • 336

    Posts

  • 3.4K

    Comments