Someone who does not appreciate those who steal from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.
The entire reason the McDonald’s app exists is so McDonald’s can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.
I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as “stealing”.
If tech went down for six months, they’d offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.
Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won’t pay that much.
It’s tiered pricing where they’re fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.
Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.
We are the poor.
Yes, there are poorer people out there, but I think we all kinda forget how big the divide is. It lets us put ourselves in a place where we feel like we’re doing well comparatively, but I think it’s important that we remember that we’re all being taken advantage of and we all deserve better. Yeah, definitely some will need a bit more uplifting than others, but it’s Us vs. Them, and I think we spend too much time trying to further sub-divide that ‘Us’. Thank you for attending my crazy segue.
We’re all poor enough to deserve those free nugs though.
You unwittingly (or maybe purposefully but few spotted it so far) tripped on the Moral Core of the matter.
Somebody tricking the McDonald’s system for personal upside maximization isn’t the class warrior so many are portraying here, rather he’s just another greedy fucker with a swindle that just so happens to target a large corpo.
A class warrior would be trying to make things better for everybody, not just himself.
I can see how his date’s take on this might have been that he’s a guy who is dishonest for his own gain, which is hardly the kind of person you want to get in a relationship with.
Further, somebody with their own decent notebook and the technical knowhow to run Android emulators is almost certainly not poor and actually needing to do this, which would be the only valid reason to do it.
I can appreciate those who steal from corporations but I sure as hell don’t want to implicate myself by being with them when they do it lol
A guy I hung out with in college told me about all the ATMs he stole and asked if I wanted to go with him next time… I said maybe another time and then never spoke to him again. I didn’t want to be associated with him when he eventually got busted…which he did…
I don’t know the details of these nuggets, but I’m guessing they used multiple sessions to use a coupon code multiple times or something of the sort. More just exploiting a poorly set up system than theft.
Stealing ATMs is significantly different and definitely more illegal in my mind.
Nobody got anything to say about her reply?! She could have just ghosted him but instead gave an honest reply.
Many people who get mad at getting ghosted also often get mad at the “bullshit” reasons they get, so you’re not going to hear a lot of praise.
i can’t help but think that if your first date with someone is drive thru mcdonalds, maybe that should have been the first clue
My first date with my girlfriend was at a Wendy’s and we took the bus to get there. That was 2005. We got married in 2009 and just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary. It doesn’t matter where you go or how much you spend, it just matters who you’re there with.
If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future looks promising
Maybe don’t order carnist options though
Maybe don’t order carnist options though
Why not let people excercise their liberty to decide for themselves. Plus how is this relevent to a date a majority of people are omnivorous anyways
Was their comment one of those ‘self-identifying without being asked’ moments? Certainly feels stereotypical to me. But, it couldn’t be that obvious.
Usually vegans use the term carnist to represent those who engage in animal products full stop, rather than breaking down the difference into carnivore and omnivore.
To us vegans, whether you’re carnivore or omnivore results in the same outcomes. Plus, many conversations surrounding veganism don’t necessarily involve diets, such as with clothing, in which case again it’s easier to use a single term to describe everything non-vegan.
You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.
Ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products.
Things can have several properties, for example a thing can be red, which doesn’t mean the thing is not a cube.
I dunno. McDs was mine and my spouse’s first date, after church.
We are married 27 years now…
A while back Taco Bell and T-Mobile was doing some promo where you could get a free taco each week (or something like that, it’s been years) for “T-Mobile Tuesday”. The code wasn’t unique, but it’s use was tracked on the TB account. TB at this time also didn’t have a captcha for new accounts.
I also had a Google Workspace domain that had its email rigged to accept and deliver any email sent to its domain regardless of what was before the @.
A bit of C# later and I had a Taco Generator going, on command it would generate however many orders at whatever TB I choose. I’d just roll up and say I had 12 orders for cm0002 LMAO
No one ever said anything until the one time i pushed my luck and had it generate 24 tacos, then the manager was like “Better not be this high again, I’m cool with the 12”
Honestly, fuck you.
I managed a pizza place for six years and I cut the scam orders down to 10% of what they were when I took over. We were insanely busy in the fattest city in the USA.
Aside- I don’t mind giving food away, I always made sure there was food for the staff, even made my own recipes for everyone that’s so much better than what you can order at [corpo store]. During the busy season we had 40 employees and I made sure they were all fed and made sure they had food to take home to their families if they were in a bad spot. I was actually making less than minimum wage because I was exempt salary at the federal minimum and I worked 50-70 hours a week. We also fed homeless people as long as they took what we had and didn’t demand we cook something for them.
Back on topic- Scammers are not starving people, they’re just assholes. We had one guy who was getting one free pizza each week delivered to his fucking boat. I mean this guy was getting a free pizza with no tip delivered during the busiest part of the busiest day of the week for years! When I told him to never call again he called me every name he could, and threatened to call the police. I had so many people threaten to come over and fight me when I refused their scams. I would drop everything even in the middle of the shittiest rush to shut down a scam. Scams hurt everyone and especially hurt the drivers who got $2.15 an hour. Scammers never tip.
For any food managers who read this, I developed a technique I call the broken record. In a cheery voice, I would say “I’m sorry sir/ma’am but without a verified order I’m unable to issue a replacement.” They would but but but but and I would say “I’m sorry sir/ma’am but without a verified order I’m unable to issue a replacement.”
Sometimes they would hang up after two. Sometimes I would say it eight times in a row. But that’s all I would say once I was sure they were lying. It worked fucking fantastic and the more they cussed me out the better my day would get. They would say the most ridiculous shit like the pizza put my daughter in the hospital. And you want another?
Years of this combined with knowing pathological liars since I was a child means I can spot a liar right away. I am very fucking good at knowing when someone is lying. I don’t mind when people exaggerate a story a bit for fun, I do it myself, but liars can go fuck off all the way. They do not care about you, only what they can get from you.
Thanks for coming to my Fred talk.
Tbh, my biggest takeaway from that is tipping and sub-minimum wage need to go die in a fire. That corp used you and your employees as a meat shield to soak up the financial consequences for flaws in their shitty system.
You and your team are victims of wage theft.
Yeah at the end of the day this is another example of corporate greed and them taking advantage of the people on the front line who are measured in dollars and cents where the CEO is measured in percentage of quarterly revenue.
That being said the people who don’t need a cheap pizza but rather just want to game the system or to prove a point of what they can get are the same as the people that refuse to tip because the tipping system is bad. They are costing the corporation pennies while making someone’s day really shitty.
Class warfare isn’t only against those of a different class, it can and is manufactured to make you angry at those next to you so we bicker amongst ourselves as the the actual guy on his boat would never order this pizza to begin with and has his own private culinary staff.
Oh I absolutely agree. The only things I’m proud of from my time in that fire are the people skills I gained and the people I was able to help. Shit was so bad in this place. One day one of the drivers came in crying. She didn’t have a shift that day I asked her what was wrong and she’d found a body in the alley behind her place. Her husband had killed the guy. She had nowhere else to turn. We sat in the little desk area we called an office and I hugged her and told her we would figure it out and she would be ok. We waited for the police while service went to shit because I wasn’t out there.
You are being exploited by whoever owned the pizza place. We are all working class.
That’s your takeaway? That we’re all be exploited so the person who has to deal with the scams should just be OK with it because we’re all on some hypothetical side?
Always scam companies out of pizzas and give employees a larger tip with the money you saved. That’s the lesson here
I wouldn’t mind if they did that at all. In total I was at that shithole for 8 precious years of my life. The poverty was grinding. I would make free pizzas happily all day if it was getting the drivers paid.
But in that eight years I cannot recall a single free pizza that got a tip.
a) This was TB a giant multi-billion dollar conglomerate, not the local pizza joint nor did I ever place it for delivery, no tip was expected.
b) The manager knew what I was doing and was mad about the quantity rather than what I was doing and gave me a stern “Just keep it reasonable” warning. Which I adhered to, had he told me to stop entirely I would have.
That’s kind of like going up to a display that says “free sample - one per customer” and taking several samples. And doing so on a first date, like: this is who I am. It’s not really bad or anything, it’s just… kind of weird and embarassing.
It is overtly bad. It’s making someone’s shitty job worse because you think you’re better and so smart for beating the system. Garbage people.
Is there anything that really makes their job shittier about this though? Than than dealing with three orders instead of one?
If anything with the focus these days on metrics around how fast they can serve customers these three simple orders probably made their metrics look better so they could slack off on the next few orders.
But yeah just says “I’m a cheapskate.”
I’d say, potentially yes.
I say that, because 1, is been over 2 decades since I worked a McDonald’s, so things could have changed. And 2, it depends on the time of day. And secret third option, depends on the customer.
So generally speaking a certain amount of food will be cooked before hand and kept in a warmer for only so many minutes (ideally). So it is possible that there wasn’t enough chicken nuggets ready to go and they just had to be counted out. If that’s the case the person just needed to make more chicken nuggets.
However, even back when I worked there you had a plethora of customers who would demand fresh stuff and I know it’s only gotten more popular to do (don’t do that). So if this individual demanded that they be freshly made and it was done during the rush… Then yes absolutely this could have made somebody’s day worse.
Ever worked food or retail? I mean yeah the guy’s a dipshit, but you aren’t considering factors that make several workers’ day worse.