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Interesting.

When a rich man is sentenced to prison, and then actually has to go to prison, it’s called a “legal loophole”.

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My first thought was “So we call ‘following the law’ a loophole now?”

If the law meant a fucking thing, he would have been in prison decades ago.

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WHY did it take this long to get around to it? So bizarre.

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In a word: Garland.

In two words: Merrick Garland

In three words: fucking Merrick Garland

In four words: fucking Merrick “Slowclown” Garland

In five words: establishment hack as attorney general.

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17 points

'The voters are going to reject him and then we don’t have to go through all this messy business if prosecution."

It’s the moral elevation of inaction for its own sake above action for any reason.

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240 points

Fun to think about, but I can promise that Trump will never see consequences for his actions. Everything just miraculously slides right off of him.

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Like a convcted felon president elect is going to give 2 shits about new york, or laws in general.

He’ll get a judge to pause all this shit until later. A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

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A great Russian Mafia knows the judge’s and prosecutor’s kids 🔪

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And where the nearest window is when they refuse the tea

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32 points

Yeah, he’ll just get his 6/3 Supreme Court majority to rule that the president is also immune to state crimes like they already ruled for federal crime.

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26 points

LegalEagle on YouTube says it’s basically done. He will never see jail.

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5 points

Every time there’s talks about it I think about The fall of the house of Usher

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First presidential act from prison: kill the judge. Second: free himself regardless of law.

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4 points

He’ll just stay out of New York until his coronation

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3 points

Cheat codes

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191 points

Yeah fucking right. Jesus Christ. We need to just accept that it’s over. He’s never going to face any consequences and NY is not sending anyone to the White House to drag him out…

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Realistically probably not. However it’s best to not give up hope and call out those who aren’t enforcing the law.
If there’s enough fuss it’ll go down in history as straight up corruption instead of some squabble of technicalities.

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22 points

This is what the law is. It’s never applied to rich pale bros.

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18 points

What about orange pieces of shit?

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…or rich pale chicks…or rich bros that aren’t pale…or rich chicks that aren’t pale…really the being rich is the important part. Let’s you buy good lawyers and also judges or legislators if you need to.

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1 point

not with that attitude, get out on the streets already

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18 points

But (as a European) it would be funny tho

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Yea when hes dead, Redditors will go “We should resurrect trump to torture him”. 🤣

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18 points

For the shit he’s done, they wouldn’t be wrong.

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So you’d resurrect hitler and risk him escaping taking control of the world again just for the chance of satisfying your urges to inflict harm? Hell nah, let dead pieces of shit stay dead.

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130 points

This country will never, ever prosecute a president because it would set a precedent of holding our politicians accountable. Ain’t happening. We’ve all been watching Pelosi do insider trading for decades.

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Except he’s already been prosecuted and found guilty. This is the sentencing. Now the question is will New York state sentence and imprison him before he takes office.

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19 points

He’s just not going to show up and will stay in FL till after inauguration. If you think they’re going to hold politicians to the same standard as you and me you’re incredibly naïve.

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It’s gonna be interesting because we are clearly at a level of manipulation where the sheer act of being held accountable will 100% be called persecution. From here on out any attempt to hold a politician accountable will be met with resistance and end up being theatre.

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As reprehensible as it is morally, Congresscritters can STILL legally trade based on their insider info they get from their Congresscritter jobs. So there’s really no crime to prosecute. There SHIOULD be, but there isn’t.

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Politicians doing insider trading is not limited to Pelosi, and somehow not illegal. At least Congress has more ethics standards than courts, but it’s an extremely low bar and unreasonable to be held to such lower standard than the rest of us

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The “somehow” isn’t a big leap… The people who would have to outlaw it are the exact ones benefitting from the broken status quo, same as it ever was.

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Insider trading is actually legal for congress though. You’re point is valid for systemic issues but this specific one boils down to the individuals involved. There is no precedent for this, no one can really say the judge did anything improper. It would likely be a boon for the governor in a blue state and who knows the DA ambitions.

I’m mostly making counterpoints than a prediction though. I still don’t think anything major will happen.

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8 points

Yes, the second most pressing concern in everyone’s lives after a second Trump term—Nancy Pelosi’s husband

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No one is saying that. It’s just blatant corruption in front of the entire country for everyone to see.

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Hey, you drew the comparison. The whole world of corrupt US politicians to choose from. Don’t like the conclusion people draw when they read exactly what you’ve written? Just write something else lol

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I’m concerned about Pelosi’s husband! Didn’t he get attacked by a dude with a hammer? I wouldn’t wish that on anyone

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2 points

Faaallllseee equivalennnnnceeee

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88 points

JD Vance as president is an even more terrifying thought.

Beware the Monkey Paw

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53 points

I see Vance as a half smart opportunist, not a full on Fascist.

I could be wrong.

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64 points

I’m from Germany, so my exposure to US politics is limited (yet still way too much). So, I happened to watch/listen to the new york times podcast interview with vance about 1-2 weeks before the election. Mind you, before that I assumed he was an awkward idiot because all I knew about him was the doughnut thing, laughing at his own joke, and the couch thing. So I basically only tuned in to hear that weird ass man speak for once.

Apart from the shitty interviewer, I was shocked to find that he would charm me every couple of minutes. Saying people change their minds, people make mistakes, explaining where he is coming from, talking about his wife. This was not who I expected. And I had to remind myself a couple of times: this dude is up to no good. Listen to what he is not saying. Don’t get sucked into this madness.

But damn he sounded so normal. So human. (Especially in contrast to the stuff I heard about him before.) And since then, I am honestly worried about this guy. I am definitely on the left spectrum politically speaking, and I still found some stuff relatable just by the way he talked. This scared me so much.

So I agree with you, I think he is an opportunist. And he actually knows what he is doing. I think he knows how to act and speak much better than the left US media tried to portray. They try to ridicule someone who is a very elaborate politician, and this can backfire so much, it’s dangerous. Don’t ridicule the devil in power. I believe if he wanted to, he could wrap a lot of people around his finger.

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I agree. He has done a great job managing his career. We’ll see what happens

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If you look at the election prediction history graph on Nate Silver’s substack, you see an upwards trajectory for Trump/Vance ever since the vice-presidential debate. That was also when the “Republicans are weird” narrative that was working so well for Harris/Walz abruptly left the discourse. And I believe that what happened was that Republicans who were embarrassed by Vance as well as Trump had a moment like you describe where he suddenly didn’t seem so unrelatable and that right there sunk the Dems… as much as it pains me to admit it, because I’d much rather have a party that wins on the issues and communicates clearly how insane and risky it was to vote for literal autocracy, the Harris campaign probably made the wrong choice with Walz and never should have stopped mocking Republicans for being “weird.”

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29 points

Younger generally means more hopeful and ambitious, so it really depends how much Peter Thiel has his hooks in him.

Vance at least has a non-white wife and is still on his first marriage so probably less bitter.

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As an aside I was looking up everyone involved with founding PayPal. What a collective bunch of shit stains they are.

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icymi, JD Vance is a vassal of Peter Thiel.

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Could be. otoh, the big chair changes people. Some grow into the job.

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8 points

Trump isn’t smart either. He’s just a figure head.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/

At the time Trump built his Tower, Jackie Kennedy was working to preserve Grand Central station in Manhattan. Trump had a golden opportunity to get in good with the most influential taste maker in the country, and blew it because he’s a greedy idiot and a vulgarian.

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6 points

Vance is a fucking monarchist.

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Nah he’s a slightly more knowledgeable clown who is even more eager to do what the money backers want

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I don’t know, is there a lot of couch in the white house, must take some time for him to introduce himself to all of them?

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Theoretically there’s nothing stopping Trump from being president from prison.

There’s no rule that says a dog can’t play basketball.

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