87 points

The cope is strong here.

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Its stronger on reddit. Front page is filled with “Biden should resign and make Kamala the first woman president to ‘break the glass barrier’” and “Biden should appoint Kamala Harris to the supreme court” and “Biden shoud make an official act to do X”.

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58 points

I mean. Rationally speaking, shouldn’t Biden do something extreme at this moment?

This is one core problem Kamala had. Her message was “Donald Trump is a Nazi,” yet the entire Biden administration never treated him like some existential threat to Democracy.

You know all those hypotheticals about killing Adolf Hitler? Notice how no one ever discusses the legality of killing Hitler? It’s all discussions of temporal mechanics or the ethics of punishing someone for a crime before they commit it. No one ever says, “no, you obviously shouldn’t kill Hitler before he comes to power, as that would have been against German law.”

Realistically, if Kamala’s rhetoric is factual, Biden should have had Trump arrested on day one of his term, charged in a military tribunal for treason, and convicted and sentenced before the first 100 days were complete. The debate should have been whether to give Trump the death penalty, not whether he had presidential immunity. And what about the Supreme Court? What ABOUT the Supreme Court? Did the Allies give much credence to whatever bullshit rulings the Nazi courts issued? Trump should have been pounded into the dirt, and any SCOTUS justices who dared to intervene should have been charged as accomplices. And anyone remotely involved in the plot should have been similarly purged from civil society. We should have seen hundreds, maybe even thousands, of life sentences.

THAT is how you respond to a threat to democracy. You find absolutely everyone involved and throw the book at them. You move quickly and run roughshod over normal judicial procedure. Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and imprisoned people for running pro-Confederate newspapers. That is what you have to do in times where democracy is truly threatened.

Does Biden actually believe Trump is literally another Adolf Hitler? Then logically, if that is literally true, then Biden should order the military to take him out. Hell, he should do whatever is necessary, upend the entirety of American democracy, become a full dictator if need be. Better a centrist dictator than a Fascist one. In other words, if Trump is literally Hitler, than Biden should be acting right now like our hypothetical time traveler.

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Unfortunately Biden is a huge fucking pussy who brags about have cookouts with Nazi simps

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In response to a post highlighting examples of pointless, hyperbolic copium, this guy walks in and says, “hold my beer” and then advocates for Biden to (“logically”) launch a cruise missile at Mar-a-Lago. OMG I’m dying 🤣

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The problem, I believe, is that most Democrats are institutionalists who will defend the rule of law even when it means handing the reigns over to a group who have openly declared hostility towards it. They are also afraid that using any kind of force to stop Trump and his cronies will trigger violent rebellion and they know who owns most of the guns in this country. They’re playing a trolley problem game but because they don’t really have progressive values they aren’t putting, say, Ukraine, Palestine and the entire fucking climate on the “peaceful transfer of power” track.

We need a party with higher values than just “defending institutions.”

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18 points

The debate should have been whether to give Trump the death penalty,

Bingo.

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3 points

My lizard brain is all for the resigning thing. With the message being something about making a statement in the history books about the decision the public made in 2024. Mostly predicting the inevitable disaster of Trumps second term, just like his first term.

Higher brain thinks that’s just poking a bear though. Ugh. We’re fucked.

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26 points

I mean, the resigning one is way more possible/probable and less disruptive. It’d more be funny than anything, especially if his fans bought lots if “47th” merch, as they’d be supporting Harris

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7 points

Imagine him resigning the day before Trump is sworn in so they’re totally not ready for it. Just to be extra dickish.

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130 points

This country will never, ever prosecute a president because it would set a precedent of holding our politicians accountable. Ain’t happening. We’ve all been watching Pelosi do insider trading for decades.

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8 points

Yes, the second most pressing concern in everyone’s lives after a second Trump term—Nancy Pelosi’s husband

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3 points

No one is saying that. It’s just blatant corruption in front of the entire country for everyone to see.

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Hey, you drew the comparison. The whole world of corrupt US politicians to choose from. Don’t like the conclusion people draw when they read exactly what you’ve written? Just write something else lol

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2 points

I’m concerned about Pelosi’s husband! Didn’t he get attacked by a dude with a hammer? I wouldn’t wish that on anyone

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41 points

Except he’s already been prosecuted and found guilty. This is the sentencing. Now the question is will New York state sentence and imprison him before he takes office.

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19 points

He’s just not going to show up and will stay in FL till after inauguration. If you think they’re going to hold politicians to the same standard as you and me you’re incredibly naïve.

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12 points

It’s gonna be interesting because we are clearly at a level of manipulation where the sheer act of being held accountable will 100% be called persecution. From here on out any attempt to hold a politician accountable will be met with resistance and end up being theatre.

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2 points

Faaallllseee equivalennnnnceeee

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12 points

Insider trading is actually legal for congress though. You’re point is valid for systemic issues but this specific one boils down to the individuals involved. There is no precedent for this, no one can really say the judge did anything improper. It would likely be a boon for the governor in a blue state and who knows the DA ambitions.

I’m mostly making counterpoints than a prediction though. I still don’t think anything major will happen.

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21 points

Politicians doing insider trading is not limited to Pelosi, and somehow not illegal. At least Congress has more ethics standards than courts, but it’s an extremely low bar and unreasonable to be held to such lower standard than the rest of us

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5 points

The “somehow” isn’t a big leap… The people who would have to outlaw it are the exact ones benefitting from the broken status quo, same as it ever was.

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30 points

As reprehensible as it is morally, Congresscritters can STILL legally trade based on their insider info they get from their Congresscritter jobs. So there’s really no crime to prosecute. There SHIOULD be, but there isn’t.

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46 points

Step 1, appeal to supreme court. Step 2: go free.

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16 points

Step 1.5: rot in solitary confinement in the meantime.

It’s not much, but it’s not nothing either.

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9 points

Step 1.75 Epstein as a verb

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3 points

Don’t joke about that, you get me excited.

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3 points

That’s the plan, but it’s not clear how it’s going to work. There’s a question of why the Supreme Court of the United States would be allowed to address state crimes at all. Most of the time, they aren’t allowed to.

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3 points

The answer to your question is “fuck you 6-3, laws for you, not for me!”

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That does seem like a distinct possibility, and I don’t think it would make anything worse. It’s not like he is going to be locked up during the presidency, so if they do anything else to undercut attempts to hold him accountable, it only makes their reputation worse.

And if the US recovers, after several years or after many years, it’s good to have more information about exactly how f***** up that court was so we know what kinds of things we need to try to prevent from ever happening again. Do we need a constitutional amendment to prevent the court from accepting bribes? How about one that says the president can’t pardon themselves? How about one that says convicted felons can’t run for office? There are all sorts of constitutional amendments that we didn’t know we needed until this court came about. So please, let them deliver more to us, especially if it’s a situation like this where there wasn’t going to be justice anyway.

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191 points

Yeah fucking right. Jesus Christ. We need to just accept that it’s over. He’s never going to face any consequences and NY is not sending anyone to the White House to drag him out…

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Yea when hes dead, Redditors will go “We should resurrect trump to torture him”. 🤣

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18 points

For the shit he’s done, they wouldn’t be wrong.

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So you’d resurrect hitler and risk him escaping taking control of the world again just for the chance of satisfying your urges to inflict harm? Hell nah, let dead pieces of shit stay dead.

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Realistically probably not. However it’s best to not give up hope and call out those who aren’t enforcing the law.
If there’s enough fuss it’ll go down in history as straight up corruption instead of some squabble of technicalities.

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22 points

This is what the law is. It’s never applied to rich pale bros.

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1 point

not with that attitude, get out on the streets already

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18 points

What about orange pieces of shit?

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1 point

…or rich pale chicks…or rich bros that aren’t pale…or rich chicks that aren’t pale…really the being rich is the important part. Let’s you buy good lawyers and also judges or legislators if you need to.

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18 points

But (as a European) it would be funny tho

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4 points

Yeah, won’t happen

Also, if it did, then what? You’ll have a Jesus death cult in charge of nukes. At least you can control trump by brown nosing him, the cult just will destroy the world to bring back jesus

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