cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847
@Snowden
The DNC is the only reason you’re not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.
Acknowledged. We circled the wagons around the wrong candidate twice in a row. Hillary Clinton was a well qualified candidate with likeability issues. Biden is a long time politician with equally good if not better qualifications than Clinton, he’s just old. Bernie is older. Bernie aligns a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than the other candidates out there. Bernie isn’t in this race and has endorsed Biden, he’s a wise man and usually is right on most topics. I’m going with Bernie on this one, vote Biden and start building the next generation of leaders, maybe that next leader is you.
Both Hillary and Biden are closer to the country as a whole and more likely to pull moderates, who you need to win if you want to actually win a national election.
The internet has allowed leftists to delude themselves into thinking the only people that need to be appealed to is them.
They fundamentally do not understand the kinds of people that make up this country. I’d love if we were a left leaning population. We aren’t. Continually lying to ourselves about why Bernie didn’t win is a type of paralyzing ignorance that only looks more and more absurd as the years go on.
Do a poll asking Americans their political alignment and the balance will be center right. Poll them again on specific issues and the average end up well to the left of the Democratic party. For a prime example, look at how all the abortion referendums have turned out in red states.
If you poll Americans on issues and not on politicians, the average American is politically closer to Bernie than to Biden. Bernie is more centrist than Biden is.
In case you have not noticed Bernie is not on the ballot. He is supporting Joe Biden. If you support Bernie, you will vote for Joe Biden, not some off the wall third party candidate.
Also Biden’s policies resonate with Democrats AND Republicans. Our oligarch owned MSM doesn’t do ANY favors for Joe Biden.
If I ever tell you who to vote for, don’t listen to me. -B. Sanders
He’d be disappointed that, despite all his educational efforts, you still fucking refuse to think for yourself.
likeability issues
Is that what we call white supremacism these days? A “likeability issue?”
Hilary Clinton is white
Gee… what tipped you off? Was it when she started spouting white supremacist “super-predator” narratives, or did you clock her beforehand?
I think by likability they mean she’s a woman with opinions. Nobody likes that.
I voted Hilary because lesser of two evils. But I despise her snake in the grass ass! And me not liking her has absolutely nothing to do with her gender.
But you are right that there are many that hate on a strong, vocal female (AOC).
There are still many strong females out there that would have done better than Hillary and would make great leaders
It’s amazing people don’t see this for the propaganda it is coming from this user.
Everyone who doesn’t vote for Genocide Joe is a Russian troll!
Good luck in the Blue MAGA echo chamber.
DNC gets caught committing fraud in their own primary
“No obviously it’s because not enough people voted for Bernie in the primary”
mmm yes I wonder why that is
Bernie was winning until the DNC called in the media assasination and started cooking numbers.
Remember when Chris Matthews lost his fucking mind and started claiming that a sanders presidency would mean executions in Central Park.
It is so frustrating sometimes talking about the history I lived through with people on this site. They will straight faced tell you how “no one beat Biden in the primaries this year” or “sanders has his chance to win but lost”
One candidate has the backing of the DNC and the corporate media which hammers nonstop about how voting for sanders is voting for socialist death squads and he is unelectable. I’m sure that had no impact on the voters though. Billy and Bonnie msnbc watcher probably saw that clip and fully understood the complex nuances of who owns msnbc, what their motivations are, and could understand why one of the 4 media conglomerates might be a bit concerned about their profit machine getting disrupted. They certainly wouldn’t take 24/7 coverage about how unelectable and dangerous he is to heart.
To those who disagree here are some articles from 2016
https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/superdelegates-hillary-clinton-nomination/index.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/07/25/dnc-betrayed-bernie-sanders-and-the-rest-of-america/
Everything would be perfect! And we would all be happy!
Parallel universe horseshit is really enlightened and helpful!
Gore v Bush would like a word. We gotta stop “electing” Republicans cause then some wild shit happens to America.
If Gore had not been blocked from the presidency by Jeb Bush’s Florida (with its’ goddamned hanging chads in the ballot) and the right wing Supreme Court purposely dragging its’ feet then saying “there is no time”:
- The threat of hijacking airplanes would have been taken seriously.
- Iraq would NOT have been invaded, 9/11 or no 9/11.
- The Kyoto Protocol (greenhouse emissions treaty) would have been honored instead of dumped, which is what baby bush did.
- The Army Corp Of Engineers would have had resources for dike maintenance in New Orleans leading up to Hurricane Katrina, instead of going on pointless errands in Iraq.
These are but a few of the major sliding door points, there are MANY others.
Yet lazy, stubbornly ignorant narcissistic idiots still insisted and to this day insist that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe.
These non-voters see their blood-soaked hands and sigh in contentment at their mediocre idea of purity.
Gore lost the election for a lot of reasons and Florida was certainly the most important, but honestly it’s the electoral college. No one wants a far right president but they don’t have a choice because 10% of the electorate has completely overtaken the Republican party and it’s just MAGA now.
