cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847

@Snowden

The DNC is the only reason you’re not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.

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“A presidential election is not a Grammy Award contest for the best singer or entertainer. It’s about who has the best policies that impact our lives,” Sanders said. “I’m going to do everything I can to see that Biden gets reelected.” - https://apnews.com/article/biden-debate-democrats-trump-trapped-c10c872f8436966096b45b6089adee8b

Considering Mitch McConnell blocked Obama’s last supreme court nomination for over a year until Trump was in office, changed senate rules to help nominate Gorsuch, and fast-tracked ACB at the end of Trump’s term, anyone blaming the DNC for the current state of the supreme court is being completely disingenuous.

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anyone blaming the DNC for the current state of the supreme court is being completely disingenuous.

Except for the fact that the DNC helped to sabotage Bernie in the primary and Bernie Would Have Won, you have a point.

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So, the Republicans keep doing terrible things, and the Democrats either can’t or won’t stop them.

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The republicans have been voting in lockstep to block pretty much everything that the democrats have tried to get passed. Why are you trying to both sides this rather than giving an actual solution?

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The actual solution is to vote Green.

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It’s good Lemmy is keeping me up to date on Russia’s stance on US politics.

Apparently Putin is getting all of his minions to encourage voter apathy.

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Bernie would have won. Simple as.

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While he got somewhere around 50% support among democrats that vote in primaries while running against Hilary Clinton, I don’t think it’s a given he could get centrists that vote in the general to vote for him.

I know it makes for a better narrative that Bernie could’ve been President, but that’s all it is, a narrative.

But that’s what Russian propaganda always is, isn’t it? Just narratives, no actual facts.

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Acknowledged. We circled the wagons around the wrong candidate twice in a row. Hillary Clinton was a well qualified candidate with likeability issues. Biden is a long time politician with equally good if not better qualifications than Clinton, he’s just old. Bernie is older. Bernie aligns a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than the other candidates out there. Bernie isn’t in this race and has endorsed Biden, he’s a wise man and usually is right on most topics. I’m going with Bernie on this one, vote Biden and start building the next generation of leaders, maybe that next leader is you.

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likeability issues

Is that what we call white supremacism these days? A “likeability issue?”

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Hilary Clinton is white lmfao what are you talking about?

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Hilary Clinton is white

Gee… what tipped you off? Was it when she started spouting white supremacist “super-predator” narratives, or did you clock her beforehand?

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I think by likability they mean she’s a woman with opinions. Nobody likes that.

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I voted Hilary because lesser of two evils. But I despise her snake in the grass ass! And me not liking her has absolutely nothing to do with her gender.

But you are right that there are many that hate on a strong, vocal female (AOC).

There are still many strong females out there that would have done better than Hillary and would make great leaders

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Pretending that the problems with Hillary Clinton is her garbage girlboss-feminism and not the fact that she’s a white supremacist arch-colonialist and warmonger that was literally mentored by the US’s very own Heinrich Himmler-level war criminal is peak white liberalism.

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-14 points

If I ever tell you who to vote for, don’t listen to me. -B. Sanders

He’d be disappointed that, despite all his educational efforts, you still fucking refuse to think for yourself.

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That’s not a true quote.

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-11 points

Content wasn’t important, only this. I understand.

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Both Hillary and Bernie are closer to the country as a whole and more likely to pull moderates, who you need to win if you want to actually win a national election.

The internet has allowed leftists to delude themselves into thinking the only people that need to be appealed to is them.

They fundamentally do not understand the kinds of people that make up this country. I’d love if we were a left leaning population. We aren’t. Continually lying to ourselves about why Bernie didn’t win is a type of paralyzing ignorance that only looks more and more absurd as the years go on.

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Do a poll asking Americans their political alignment and the balance will be center right. Poll them again on specific issues and the average end up well to the left of the Democratic party. For a prime example, look at how all the abortion referendums have turned out in red states.

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If you poll Americans on issues and not on politicians, the average American is politically closer to Bernie than to Biden. Bernie is more centrist than Biden is.

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In case you have not noticed Bernie is not on the ballot. He is supporting Joe Biden. If you support Bernie, you will vote for Joe Biden, not some off the wall third party candidate.
Also Biden’s policies resonate with Democrats AND Republicans. Our oligarch owned MSM doesn’t do ANY favors for Joe Biden.

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6 points

CNN and mainstream media has deluded liberals into believing Hillary is actually a viable candidate.

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-8 points

It’s messianic thinking for people who think they’re smarter than most Christians.

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10 points

We know. Doesn’t matter until we have ranked choice or the like. Only one side gives us even a glimmer of a chance at that, so we have one choice.

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You won’t have ranked choice (or any other kind of vote) if you don’t vote.

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1 point

I support ranked choice, but I don’t see how that’s relevant here.

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1 point

That is part of the problem…

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18 points

DNC gets caught committing fraud in their own primary

“No obviously it’s because not enough people voted for Bernie in the primary”

mmm yes I wonder why that is

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13 points

Bernie was winning until the DNC called in the media assasination and started cooking numbers.

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Remember when Chris Matthews lost his fucking mind and started claiming that a sanders presidency would mean executions in Central Park.

It is so frustrating sometimes talking about the history I lived through with people on this site. They will straight faced tell you how “no one beat Biden in the primaries this year” or “sanders has his chance to win but lost”

One candidate has the backing of the DNC and the corporate media which hammers nonstop about how voting for sanders is voting for socialist death squads and he is unelectable. I’m sure that had no impact on the voters though. Billy and Bonnie msnbc watcher probably saw that clip and fully understood the complex nuances of who owns msnbc, what their motivations are, and could understand why one of the 4 media conglomerates might be a bit concerned about their profit machine getting disrupted. They certainly wouldn’t take 24/7 coverage about how unelectable and dangerous he is to heart.

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Can’t give Obama enough credit for telling everyone to drop out and consolidate behind Biden!

Liberals seem have a much easier time forming coalitions against sucdems than they do fascists, wonder why.

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…and the last minute rule changes in Nevada

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