cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847
@Snowden
The DNC is the only reason you’re not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.
“A presidential election is not a Grammy Award contest for the best singer or entertainer. It’s about who has the best policies that impact our lives,” Sanders said. “I’m going to do everything I can to see that Biden gets reelected.” - https://apnews.com/article/biden-debate-democrats-trump-trapped-c10c872f8436966096b45b6089adee8b
Considering Mitch McConnell blocked Obama’s last supreme court nomination for over a year until Trump was in office, changed senate rules to help nominate Gorsuch, and fast-tracked ACB at the end of Trump’s term, anyone blaming the DNC for the current state of the supreme court is being completely disingenuous.
So, the Republicans keep doing terrible things, and the Democrats either can’t or won’t stop them.
The republicans have been voting in lockstep to block pretty much everything that the democrats have tried to get passed. Why are you trying to both sides this rather than giving an actual solution?
It’s good Lemmy is keeping me up to date on Russia’s stance on US politics.
Apparently Putin is getting all of his minions to encourage voter apathy.
While he got somewhere around 50% support among democrats that vote in primaries while running against Hilary Clinton, I don’t think it’s a given he could get centrists that vote in the general to vote for him.
I know it makes for a better narrative that Bernie could’ve been President, but that’s all it is, a narrative.
But that’s what Russian propaganda always is, isn’t it? Just narratives, no actual facts.
We know. Doesn’t matter until we have ranked choice or the like. Only one side gives us even a glimmer of a chance at that, so we have one choice.
Voters are the reason Bernie didn’t get the nomination
That is not how the Democratic Party works.
The primary vote is an opinion poll.
The DNC just picks a candidate they want.
Protest no voting is the reason why Hillary isn’t finishing up her second term, with a solid 8 years of climate action, still having Roe, likely much better budget, likely hundreds of thousands of lives saved from covid, not facing project 2025, and who knows what else. Thanks protest no voters.
Sanders supporters, Hilary supporters, Obama supporters, like how many hoops do you have to jump through to divvy things up? I’m not even going to try to figure that out. This is really simple, I’m saying the left voters need to show up. How many are there? Who knows, because they never show up.
Hilary promised free ice cream and puppies for everyone. Protest no voters are the reason why I’m not enjoying a cone with my puppy new best friend right now.
Hillary is the reason there were protest votes and general voter apathy.
She instructed her media cronies to promote Trump as the front runner, and also ran a rigged primary that stonewalled all attempts for competition to get a word in edgewise.
She knew how much of a threat Trump was, and yet she persisted in incompetently throwing what should have been the easiest Democratic win in history, with her fucking meddling.
It’s a shame that the only way to destroy the Democratic party is to kill the Republican party first, but alas, business always comes before pleasure, doesn’t it.
Yeah no shit people no vote protested, that was my whole point. And how did that work out? Not very well huh. Thanks no vote protesters!
You want to be effective in moving things left? You do that by voting for the Dems. Every time they lose, they go to the center to find voters.
They go to the right to get voters, regardless of whether they win or lose.
And then they still lose because no one’s going to pick Diet Republican over the real deal.
Hillary should never have been on the primary ticket much less in the final race.
“I don’t like Hilary so I’ll protest no vote! Let’s see what that gets us.” Yeah, take a look at what it got you.
If you’re going to what if, if the DNC leadership wasn’t caught off guard by Obama’s popularity in 2008. They would of railroaded him like they did Sanders.
Then we would have had 8 years of McCain because Hillary was and is un-electable.
More than that. Protest voting only works if you’re vote is important to them. If you aren’t a representative part of a large group of reliable voters or donors. THEY DON’T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE. If courting you would help their margin of victory. But might alienate other more reliable voters or donors. THEY DON’T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE. If they don’t really care about your vote. Then they don’t really care about your protest. Then your protest is pointless and counterproductive.
As cruel and heartless as it sounds. Resources and bandwidth are always limited. They have to put their attention and efforts where they think they will get the best payout. Trying to please a broad swath of fickle unreliable left-leaning voters generally falls outside of the good uses of those limited resources.
Literally our passive leftist protest voting is meaningless to them. Even if they lose. Meaningless to them. They will spend millions of dollars analyzing trying to figure out why otherwise reliable group didn’t vote for them. If they hear that they didn’t get leftist vote, they won’t bat an eye.
If we want their attention. If we want their concern. We need to ingratiate ourselves. And make ourselves indisposable to them. We need some primary them. We need to replace them with ourselves. Then they will pay attention. Then they will care. Before we do any of that though. Protest voting and putting the car before the horse and completely useless.
