She says it in this new video: https://x.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1838960476199211454
Good… but also I have no idea who that is 👴
45 million monthly listeners on Spotify. That is 10 million more than The Beatles right now. 60th overall on the top list of plays just above Michael Jackson. Half the amount of TSwift
So they are a well known artist.
I mean, using these spotify metrics in comparison with all time greats is kinda flawed.
For example my band sold just as many tickets as Michael Jackson and the Beatles COMBINED in 2024.
I am not in a band.
This is why I used Spotify listeners and not plays or ticket sales or album sales. It’s a metric that doesn’t really require a band to be currently active. New hits will clearly improve the metric but we’re talking here specifically about a person’s outreach today and influence on a voting population.
The idea that more individual people listened to her music than had a single Beatles song in their playlist or a single Michael Jackson song in their playlist is pretty insane. I know I listen to at least one Beatles song a month, it doesn’t matter if it is new.
It’s really sad to me that modern youths and others tend to only listen to streaming music services, paying subscriptions, listening to ads, not being able to choose what song they hear next.
Everyone should own some form of permanently usable media with the music they like on it. If bands were still putting out CDs I’d recommend that for long term storage, because my collection from the 90s is still working fine. But with smartphones being the king of all social control now, I’d recommend having MP3s of every song and album you enjoy. Store them in multiple places with backups. I have also been collecting those since the 90s. My music collection is awesome. I have hundreds of CDs and about 10000 MP3s that no corporation can deny me access to.
The only thing I like about streaming services is discovering new artists. But I don’t need it to do that.
The big issue is that physical media degrades. A cassette tape wont sound the same as it did after just existing for 20 years. CD’s and Vinyl records if kept really well can last for 100 years or so but are delicate in other ways and a bad record player can cause permanent damage.
Preserving the experiences of others, art, media is important, but at the end of the day nothing we do is permanent. I know that thanks to online archives I can go and find old music if I need to. I am glad some folks preserve hard copies but a preserved collection isn’t really a functional one and a functional one isn’t really going to last 50 or 60 years at the same quality as what you can get from streaming.
Her music is infectious. Think 80’s Madonna if she were progressive, very lesbian, and even sadder and somehow more vengeful than Alanis Morissette
that’s a hell of an endorsement; enough that i went and listened. not my thing. but overall seems chill.
Did you listen to Good Luck Babe? https://youtu.be/1RKqOmSkGgM
I know of Chappell Roan because she’s recently been ruffling people’s feathers by asserting boundaries against fans’ parasocial weirdness; I’ve never heard any of her music, but this alone is enough to make me a fan.
Here’s her NPR Tiny Desk Concert
Edit: her music video for ‘Hot To Go’ shot in her Missouri hometown https://youtu.be/xaPNR-_Cfn0
And for the Elton fans, her cover of ‘Your Song’ https://youtu.be/wslno0wDSFQ
“I just woke up to, like, people just skewing it even more,” Roan said of the reaction to her no endorsement post of Tuesday. “Endorsing and voting are completely different. I don’t agree with a lot of what is going on with, like, policies. Like, obviously, fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.”
“I’m not gonna settle for what the options are that are in front of me, and you are not gonna make me feel bad for that,” Roan added today with a critique of both candidates and their positions, “So yeah, I’m voting for fucking Kamala, but I’m not settling for what has been offered, because that’s questionable.”
fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.
That’s a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you’re not going to agree with everything a candidate says. Hell, even if you do run you’ll probably end up making decisions you’re not happy with. Nothing is going to be perfect, that’s not the world we live in.
fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.
That’s a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you’re not going to agree with everything a candidate says.
So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?
Maybe I’m just not picking up what you’re putting down, but that’s how your comment scans to me.
She’s not really pointing out any nuance though, she’s just vaguely saying “both sides suck, but this one sucks slightly less”. At that point, why even bother with a public announcement at all? Plenty of celebrities don’t endorse anyone and no one care because they’re not out making press releases about it.
So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?
Of course not. That’s helping Trump win. You have to overwhelmingly support everything the party does at all times, especially the stuff you disagree with.
So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?
Know your audience.
I live in San Francisco. We’re not voting for Trump. I feel perfectly fine discussing the merits and drawbacks of different Dem candidates with people around me.
When you’re up against a legitimate fascist threat? Close. Fucking. Ranks. There’s no place for infighting when the margins are this close.
Until we get voting reform, the US presidential Election is a binary choice, one or the other. An endorsement is just that: supporting one candidate over the other (and obviously their policies come along with them).
Doing it this way comes across as lukewarm support and isn’t as helpful in getting people to vote for that candidate. Kamala Harris is an empathetic, intelligent person capable of introspection. Get her elected, then we can pressure her to reconsider certain policy positions…
Also what policies? Like what’s the point of feigning a moral stand if you don’t define it? If she has legitimate grievances with the Democrats or leftist politics (yes pedants, I know they’re different and I’m saying “or” to include both, not to conflate them), then she should voice them. Otherwise she’s saying nothing but playing into the bs “both sides” false narrative that enormously benefits the right.
I think she is absolute right and within her rights to be critical and unenthusiastic about the Democratic options, but without actually offering critique then what is her weak centrist take accomplishing?
Assuming this is a centrist take is part of why she is pissed off. She isn’t endorsing because she opposes genocide and Dems treatment of trans people.
Dems are too far right for her and people are acting like she is saying trump has his good points.
Did anyone actually watch the video? She’s upset that neither side represent what she deems acceptable.
She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day. Where we are is the result of influence from corporate stooges since Reagan. It’s come to a boiling point and I understand her frustration. A vote for Harris is a vote for steering the ship towards what she deems is acceptable, but that ship sails slower than a lot people can understand.
She’s not that young, she’s been doing music for a decade and working service jobs till now. And you can understand something and still feel it is unacceptable.
She’s 26. That’s fairly young for a voter. Not really sure what her cv has to do with being considered old.
You’re so young that you think doing something for a decade is a long time.
Doing anything for a decade is a long time. That’s 1/7th of an American’s life span and 1/8th of a developed humans life span.
Doing something for a decade IS a long time, but that isn’t your point. She has plenty experience in singing and being a pop star. She is still young. 26 is young.
It doesn’t mean you should dismiss their opinion about everything, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. She seems to be fixated on perfect and missing the march toward good.
It’s what you do with your life, not how long you lived it, that matters when it comes to life experience. I’ve lived enough to draw a parallel to the following quote:
Men like this infantilize women, so women (they believe) will not have the confidence to leave them. They want to keep their wives, if not barefoot and pregnant, at least without the skills and confidence needed to have a career that could support them well. Similarly, at work, they define their secretary’s role as part mother, part wife, so they always will be taken care of. Finally, they are so dependent upon the regard of their male colleagues, bosses, and oftentimes even their subordinates, that they will violate their own sense of ethics rather than face the possibility of not being one of “the boys.”
- Ursula K Le Guin
I agree with the core of what you’re saying except I disagree that she “doesn’t understand” how slowly politics works. I think her decision to vote for Harris anyway speaks to that kind of understanding, else she’d endorse a third-party candidate/write-in in a poor attempt to speed-run democracy.
She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day.
I’m old and I’m still waiting for the government to be fixed.
If Democrats ran every branch of the government at every level I still doubt it would get fixed.
She’s been getting a lot of hate for not endorsing Harris and people fail to realize the difference between endorsing and voting. Her entire point is that the government can’t be fixed in a day. Voting for Harris is the obvious choice but her being in office isn’t going to magically solve all our problems.
Except, by definition, she is endorsing Harris by publicly supporting her candidacy. Endorse doesn’t mean you agree with everything they stand for, but if you are publicly saying who you are voting for, that’s an endorsement.
A: this isn’t really an endorsement, more than it is an acknowledgement of how fucked the options are. If you’d like to know the difference, go look at what Swifts endorsement looked like
B: she wasn’t even going to say who she was voting for, but libs decided to harass her until she did
example: I use windows for work but i’m sure as fuck not going to recommend it to other people. Saying that i’m forced to use windows for work is not an endorsement. I’d go so far as to say that in this context it’s more of a complaint or indictment than a endorsement.
Yeah I get it. I was young once and I’ve even had to have the bitter realization that even Revolution neither happens in a day nor resolves anything quickly. I ask for the passion of the young to hold hands with the wisdom of us older folks. It’s easy to demand sudden change, and important too, but building bases of power are important.
Vote for Kamala then hold her feet to the fire. Vote in every primary. Discuss what you think with people around you when it comes up, I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work. Build the support and make those maga losers afraid to show their faces.
And entertainers can do so much. Cobain got people who wouldn’t otherwise thinking of homophobia as uncool for example
I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work.
Ugh, train people are the worst. WE GET IT, YOU LIKE TRAINS.
Edit: I genuinely thought this was a typo and they meant “pro-trans.” But maybe they actually did mean “trains.”
I’m not cis passing enough to be openly talking trans issues at work. Nah I talk public transit. Shit like replacing air travel with high speed rail.
Kamala isn’t in the correct direction at all though. The democratic party serves to delay progress in favor of the Republican party. There’s a reason they lie so much and confuse and refuse to address issues progressive voters want to address. It’s not gonna get better unless people stop voting for the same “lesser evil” presented to them and pushed to them in the media.
This is either some wild optimism or accelerationism.
Gay rights activists got started in the 1970’s and in the 80’s they got homosexuality taken off the list of mental disorders and in the 90’s it looked like Hawaii was going to legalize same sex marriage and then the conservatives took notice and passed the defense of marriage act and Bill Clinton signed it (yes, a Democrat) and then Iowa and Massachusetts courts legalized it at the state level in the 00’s and for 10 years we watched court cases and ballot measures go state by state and then in 2014 we got obergefell.
Republicans did not get us marriage equality, Democrats did. Republicans opposed it at every step. Even obergefel would not have happened if Clinton had not won and picked some SC justices. Clinton had a Republican house and Senate and he was more concerned with avoiding a government shutdown. Defense of marriage act was a Republican bill. Don’t ask don’t tell was a compromise with Republicans. Obama repealed don’t ask don’t tell after Dems took the white house and both houses of Congress.
It matters who is in charge, every year, every election. And the Republican hasn’t been the progressive option since teddy Roosevelt left the Republicans to form the bull moose party.
So acting like we need to punish the Democrats for not opposing netanyahu by electing Republicans is literally throwing Palestinians and poc and queer people and poor people under the bus for your own self rightiousness.
You may not be interested in what any “celebrity” chooses politically, but there are huge groups of (stupid) people who let the people they like/follow dictate their choices.
As much as the Idiocracy of this is apparent, I don’t mind because it may get more people actually involved.
On the other hand, I very much appreciate knowing which celebrities support an administration that poses a threat to my family. I will not vote for someone based on a celebrity endorsement, but the celebrity may gain or lose my business over it.
I really liked Kid Rock in his early days. The music was catchy, and it had the right mix of redneck, rock, and rap to make this country boy happy. Now I won’t listen to him because he chose to openly throw in with politicians who do not care if their policies and rhetoric kill my friends or kids.
Boomer centrists know what a search engine is, but since Chappell Roan didn’t endorse, and voting isn’t good enough, so they’re like “Who? I never heard of her! She must not be very important if she doesn’t agree with me 100% on my terms!”
Centrists can’t imagine people being frustrated with their decades of obstruction and sliding to the right.
I’ve noticed the blue centrist types love to bully and belittle anyone and anything that doesn’t immediately get in line with their idea of a passive reality.
Who knew building a world around your own personal joy and nothing else makes you not connected to others and the tiredness of those not living it.
