Marques Brownlee, known as MKBHD, faced backlash over his new wallpaper app, Panels, due to its high subscription cost ($49.99/year) and concerns over excessive data permissions.

Brownlee acknowledged user feedback, promising to adjust ad frequency for free users and address privacy concerns, clarifying that the app’s data disclosures were broader than intended.

The app, which offers curated wallpapers and shares profits with artists, aims to improve over time, despite criticisms of its design and monetization approach.

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Apparently one of the wallpapers is just solid orange. It’s called “Orange”, is labeled as “abstract”, and is labeled with a copyright.

It’s a solid orange rectangle.

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36 points

Maybe it’s inspired by Rothko

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Could be, the man was a fucking genius hi created some of my personal favourite paintings.

Was that your point?

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25 points

The artist spent a lot of time on that!

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22 points

Months to get that perfect shade of orange.

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8 points

And just the effort of painting every one of those pixels one by one, it’s not like we have some magic tool to fill an image with the same color and call it a day.

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1 point

Perhaps more likely years of work with colour and colour theory preceding a quick output of some content? Why the sarcastic tone?

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That is a measure of exactly nothing.

https://www.nme.com/photos/30-minutes-or-less-19-famous-songs-written-at-staggering-speed-1422651

Your post makes it very clear that you have little experience in the creative world. There is no linear measure of successs or quality. You do a great disservice to those toiling with their creativity by making comments such as this one. We need artists, they are fragile things and should be treated with care.

I didn’t start this post planning to get hetup but I do feel that taking umbrage to your comment is fair, if not tautological.

I would encourage you to labour over a still life or wrestle a passable rendition of your favourite guitar riff. Try sing the first phrase of your favourite song in key. Trust me: none of those things are easy.

If you don’t like “Orange” then just look at something else and hold your tongue.

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1 point

Yes your comment is tautological.

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18 points

Anish Kapoor strikes again

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I feel this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but if you want unique wallpapers, consider paying an actual artist, instead of an influencer

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If I want a unique wallpaper I go on a walk in the great outdoors and take a picture

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-33 points

most unique things outdoors are photographed already

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So it makes sense to spend $50 a year on some pictures of those things that are already photographed?

I’m not sure how many times the things you’re taking a picture of has been photographed matters even slightly.

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7 points

So? Photography is fun. My photos don’t exist until I take them.

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21 points

Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Avoid sites like Fiver, though. Lots of AI bullshit pretending to be real art.

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Even before the flood of AI bullshit Fiverr really, really sucked for the human artists, creatives, coders, and other freelancers employed through the platform.

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I made a Fiverr account once for my art services. I deleted it within an hour of creation after reading how much money they would steal from my commissions.

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I don’t think that’s going to be an unpopular opinion around here. Maybe a little tricky in the logistics of distinguishing between an artist and influencer and finding an artist who you like and can pay for a phone background, but other than that you’re not going to find many Lemmings saying “no, pay an influencer!”

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113 points

No sane individual is going to pay for a subscription for phone backgrounds.

That is absolutely a stupid business idea and the people who came up with it should be publicly shamed.

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You think it’s new? It’s have already done by so many people in Android community. Like Widepaper, Wallfever, Wallbyte etc. These all apps are paid. People actually pay for Wallpapers.

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I think buying an app for a couple of quid that has a good curated collection of wallpapers, a nice UX, etc. is a completely fair price to pay for the convenience. I like supporting devs. I fail to see the stupidity.

A $12 monthly subscription is an entirely different beast, though.

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Or even a market that let you just buy individual wallpapers as you want them, like how you used to be able to buy individual tracks in itunes instead of a whole album.

A subscription model is a bit silly.

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31 points

I’ve not looked into it, but it’s probably pitched as a feel-good way of supporting artists.

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20 points

Remember when people paid for ringtones? Doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid, especially as a subscription, but people do stupid things and other people take advantage.

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8 points

And Ringback tones too. For when people called you, so they could listen to your favorite song instead of the ring of the phone while waiting for you to pick up.

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I forgot about that! And most songs sound like ass when you hear it over a phone, especially before whatever they did in the last decade to make voice calls more clear

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Back in the day people paid for ringtones, wallpapers, etc. Dumbest thing ever were ‘ringbacks’ where you paid to have a song or something play when people called you. So the people buying it didn’t even hear it, they just forced other people to listen to a shitty low fidelity garbled mess of a song they liked while you waited for them to pick up the phone.

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$50 a year for wallpapers or I could go to wallhaven and get millions for free?

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The “shares its profits with the artists” part is relevant here.

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64 points

It would almost be cheaper to commission an artist frankly.

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27 points

Almost is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

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19 points

For a single piece sure.

I presume the idea here is that you have access to their full library. Personally, I fail to see why I would change my wallpaper enough to warrant even a free app to change it, let alone 50 bucks.

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10 points

If you know an artist doing commissions that cheap they are depressed, desperate, or want to fuck you.

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Just use a free wallpaper app and pay a random artist 25 bucks

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7 points

Did he disclose an amount?

5% to artists is very different than 40% to artists.

Or is he adopting the Spotify bottom line?

Only pay artists after X downloads and only pay a few cents after thousands of downloads and use the rest for profits

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6 points

It’s 50%, which is honestly quite low

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I’m an artist who has uploaded many of my works to wallhaven entirely for free online, alongside the games I put out and any other creative venture I’ve pursued over the years.

That part is problematic not relevant.

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5 points

okay, cool, but I am going to assume you don’t speak for all artists.

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4 points

Use Muzei and either curate your own collection or pull in one of their pre-made ones.

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The wallpapers are nice but the website is hideous and unusable.

Edit: typo

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the website is hideous and unusable

huh?

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Which side?

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66 points

It costs $49.99 per year (or $11.99 per month)

Why in the hell does the monthly price end with you paying 280% more than the yearly. That is such an absurd discount I don’t even know why someone would pay at all for this app but more so I want to understand where the price justification is and who came up with this plan.

To be clear I support artists and more than welcome a platform for them to share and sell art if they wish… I don’t get why it needs to be a subscription service and I don’t see how such inflated charges are going to help artists as it’ll just discourage large numbers of people wanting to support them.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-decision-lab/201109/product-pricing-and-framing-when-are-we-likely-pay-more

Short version: there’s an $80 bread maker with 5 features, a $120 bread maker with 12 features, and a $475 bread maker with 14 features.

The $475 bread maker only exists to make the $120 version look like a bargain.

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Also the nature of a wallpaper app, maybe you just want to plop in get a wallpaper and scamper off into the sunset.

Matter of fact for the $50 a year price I could sign back up for a month twice a year and still come out on top.

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I believe this is called the anchoring effect in psychology, and it’s really effective

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Bingo. Major component of persuasive design.

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2 points

But in the end you get more feature for a higher price. In this case it’s the same app for different prices depending on time frame… not to mention the app has no purpose beyond finding a wallpaper so it only really has 1 feature.

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The point is not whether there are more features. The point is to give you an incentive to go yearly, and in this case it’s a huge “discount” even though it’s in no way worth the monthly cost. The monthly plan isn’t meant to sell you the monthly plan. It’s meant to make the yearly plan look good.

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I want to understand where the price justification is

The justification is that people should be yearly subscribers when they can more easily forget to cancel it.

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Probably because you can pay for a month and download all the wallpapers and cancel.

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