27 points

I’m not buying anything on Amazon for the next 90 days. Who is with me? I could quit Twitter but I don’t know about a permanent quit of Amazon…

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It’s literally impossible to fully boycott Amazon, I’ve been trying for years. Even if you buy elsewhere, often you’ll find out after the fact that Amazon does the shipping or payment processing.

We should nationalize their monopoly or break it up.

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7 points

It’s like trying to boycott Doordash for takeout. Even if you don’t use the app chances are the place you’re ordering from uses their drivers without you knowing.

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9 points

I don’t order garbage on amazon or pay people to bring food to my house, and have been able to survive somehow. Wild.

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4 points

I haven’t bought anything from Amazon in 10 years. It’s full of crap now, and the legit stuff is just thrown in to a bin in their warehouse for scanning by UPC, so it’s 50/50 if it’s an untraceable counterfeit. And the counterfeiters are good, so you probably won’t notice it’s fake until a couple years later.

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amazon is sadly too useful up in ak, but I’ll try to support competitors (aliexpress)

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8 points

I’m not sure Aliexpress is a shining beacon of workers’ rights either.

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1 point

workers? I prefer to think of it as flesh based machinery.

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20 points

Not that it matters but this change will mostly affect AWS employees which has basically nothing to do with Amazon web store.

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6 points

I haven’t bought anything via the Amazon site in years. At least three, possibly five or more. Anything I need I can get elsewhere either online or in person without supporting Amazon’s anti-union, worker-exploiting policies. I won’t even use AWS for business purposes because of how they treat their workers. Boycott away, there are plenty of Amazon options that are “good enough” if not actually better.

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Haven’t used Amazon in two years. I don’t even have an account anymore. Doesn’t stop them from sending me emails 3x/day to sign up again. I try to shop local, but I do have to go to shitty corp stores for some stuff.

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Fuck… I was doing coffee badging recently. 5 days is a lot to just drive to the office and back. I need to look for other dev jobs in Seattle that actually respect their employees, but the market is gonna be so cold after this announcement.

I have until January 2nd apparently.

At least they still haven’t said a minimum time in the office yet…

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Do you imagine you can wait out layoffs and people quitting, then go back to remote once their quiet quota is reached?

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They didn’t do that for the past 3 years. They hired 15% more in 2023.

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50 points

There are some excellent employers out there - I wish you the best of luck.

Your employer should respect you and the time you put in to producing for the company - sadly many currently don’t.

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My team and managers have been awesome with respecting my time. It’s ironic that Jassy wants to “operate like a startup” but won’t trust his management to make the best decisions so we work quickly.

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33 points

“operate like a startup” usually means they want 60+ hour weeks

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2 points

what happens january 2nd?

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7 points

Now, the company is giving employees until Jan. 2 to start adhering to the new policy.

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15 points

Quiet-quitting.

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26 points

Nah, that happens today. January 2nd is double secret quiet quitting. Or as it should be said, acting your wage.

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6 points

I’m waiting to see how the industry shakes out in a few months and see where things land.

100% though I’m pissed. The way they’ve handled RTO has been abysmal.

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I’m somewhere else but have kept Amazon in the back of my mind as a possible next place, partly out of curiosity to see what it’s like from the inside. The culture has some fun elements. No longer. This moves them out of the 2nd tier and into the 3rd, and honestly I’d wonder about anyone there who’s not chained to a visa.

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Emboldened oligarch in a plutocracy.

But also kleptocracy and really a kakistocracy disguised outwardly as an aristocracy or neo-monarchy as Raskin said.

Outside of just saying “America” or “Capitalism” How do we combine all of this into one satisfying, effective term?

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I like the term neofeudalism.

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Thank christ my company downsized offices during rona and they couldnt physically fit all of us in if they tried

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Mine too, but now I’m worried they’ll just sell off the remaining assets and close the doors.

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If you think that prevents this, you’re wrong. My company did the same thing, and when they announced RTO, people pointed out that they only had enough capacity for maybe 80% of the employees to fit. Management’s response? “I’ve seen empty desks in (other unrelated building on the other side of campus), I’m sure we’ll make it work”.

Don’t think that something silly like “physical space” or “maximum occupancy limits” will get in the way of a stupid decision.

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Mine downsized a bit too but that didn’t stop RTO either.

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47 points

People need to stand firm against the needless RTOs and demands to be present in a workplace where your work consists largely of things you can do safely from the privacy of your own home.

Without more mass resignations when companies start to roll out RTOs like this; they will never learn. If you work at such a company; start looking for another job, even if you are willing to work in the office a few days a week. Punish them harshly for enforcing RTOs.

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50 points

Those resignations are layoffs without having to call them that, there’s no downside for the company

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There’s one important difference: with layoffs, Amazon gets to selectively lay off their worse performers. With mass-quitting, the quitters will be the people who will have the easiest time finding a new job, which I bet is mostly the high-performers, not the low ones

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The higher paid high performers… They’re not interested in reducing head count as far as reducing staff costs.

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23 points

Mass resignations are worthless. Announce a strike. Make them fire you.

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