205 points

They should try making good coffee

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The coffee is okay, but nowhere close to the price they’re asking for.

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48 points

The pricing is also egregious considering I can make a far better cup at home for less.

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77 points

You’ll always make a better cup of coffee at home for less.

But people pay a little extra for the convenience of not doing it. Starbucks however is banking on their reputation to overcharge, which seems to be finally backfiring.

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23 points

They make desserts using coffee as an ingredient. That’s why their coffee is shit at being coffee.

Vanilla makes a pancake delicious, but you wouldn’t drink it.

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9 points

but you wouldn’t drink it.

Hey I had to try it at least once!

(Also: at most once)

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1 point

You should try again

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11 points

And not supporting the RNC.

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There was an article during the convention that listed supporters. I’ll look for it.

ETA- my mistake. It was a fake that was shared on Facebook and Twitter. It must have been here too because i don’t have Twitter and my Facebook is only cats and relatives.

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Starbucks does not directly support the RNC. But that doesn’t mean that Starbucks’ lobbying money doesn’t primarily support Republicans. Per the PDF you linked, the majority of Starbucks’ contributions to lobbying organizations went to those that donate at least 75% of their lobbying to Republicans.

From your link: National Restaurant Association: 75% of all donations to Republicans; 50% of Starbucks’ donations to this organization went to lobbying Business Roundtable: “75 percent of donations from the median chief executive were directed to Republicans”; 40% of Starbucks’ donations to this organization went to lobbying

Edit: Added the word “lobbying” before “money” in the first paragraph. Should have been in the original.

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10 points

My sister used to manage a coffee shop and says they would never hire former Starbucks employees because they are trained to make it very poorly.

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6 points

Also, good pastries again.

The good cafes next to me all have fresh baked pastries from a local bakery. Not Starbucks. 7-11 has better food than Starbucks.

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They never will though. Recently, they had “expert tasters” test how long their espresso shots tasted good, and their result was that “Starbucks espresso shots last up to 90 seconds.” This just so happened to take place right as they started introducing a new system on how to sequence drinks while on the espresso and cold beverage bars lol.

(Also, as a footnote, Espresso shots die after 5-10 seconds; the crema just dissipates after then, making the shot taste acidic)

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6 points

So, off topic, but are you saying that I’m to drink a scalding hot, freshly pulled shot within 10 seconds!?

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Not exactly? Traditionally, it’s served in a 2oz cup and you would slurp it to coat your tongue and get all the flavors while not outright burning your tongue. Over at Starbucks however, we tend to pour steamed milk or ice on top to shock the shots and make them stay at one taste. A good example is a plain iced doppio espresso: it’s just ice poured over two shots, with sugar, syrup, and cream to preference.

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(Also, as a footnote, Espresso shots die after 5-10 seconds; the crema just dissipates after then, making the shot taste acidic)

Espresso shots “dying” within 10 seconds is a myth, apparently started by Starbucks’ training funnily enough. The flavour of a shot definitely dies down as it gets cooler and the crema dissipates, but it’s a matter of minutes rather than seconds before a shot tastes bad.

Heck it takes more than 10 seconds to get the drink to the clients in every café I’ve worked in. If espresso dies after 10 seconds, I have never served a good espresso. I’ve also apparently never had good espresso at work, because I swear every damn time I pull a shot for myself a client comes right in before I can take a sip :P

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When I read that comment the first time, I misunderstood, and thought they were saying espresso was over-extracted after 10s, dead after 90.

I know starbucks isn’t amazing, but 90s extractions would be a whole other ballgame!

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3 points

When your coffee tasting notes are “burned, charcoal, ash”, and you make up for it by offering £7 worth of sugar, it’s not surprising when people only shop there for so long.

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Not to mention, buying local is better quality and cheaper.

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2 points

Wiah I lived where coffee beans are grown, must be great!

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8 points

You can support the union efforts and get a really cool tshirt here. I got the rainbow one.

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3 points

Not seeing any merch… ☹️

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Oh, I’m sorry. Maybe they stopped offering it (it could have been a limited run of shirts) or maybe I was wrong about where I bought mine. But I went to their action page based on an interview with a couple of the employees who were helping to organize locations more than a year ago, so who knows what could be different in that time. Sorry to mislead you.

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98 points

Why would you go to Starbucks if another local coffee shop was nearby? Their coffee is fine, but it loses taste tests to McDonald’s. They’re anti union. They’re too expensive. You can usually get a better coffee elsewhere.

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25 points

That’s crazy. Someone told me McDonald’s coffee is pretty good for the lower price range. I tried it a few times since you never know if it was just a bad batch, and I gotta say it was pretty awful, not for me. I just avoid starbucks because they think they can charge you the most ridiculous price I’ve seen for ok coffee. I have a few local places I will go to if I need something. Sadly, they are pretty expensive as well these days, but they are still cheaper than starbucks.

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I wonder if the people who claim that only order the sugary stuff. I tried McDonald’s a couple of times recently after reading online that they got the Tim Hortons OG coffee provider and it was awful. I’m not a fan of Starbucks but at least they serve consistently good coffee (not great). I only get it if I’m on company expenses

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5 points

The best mass market coffee I’ve had is, no joke, Sheetz. If their fancy machines are to be believed, they’re grinding the beans fresh every time and doing some kind of pressurized brewing method. For each cup. And if you buy something else it’s usually free.

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I personally do not like any sugar in my coffee unless at a Viennese coffee house. I have a lot of amazing coffee roasters in the area.

I still find McDonald’s coffee to be good for the price. Well, as long as there is a bit of creamer in it. I don’t ever eat at McDonald’s, I only go there for coffee if I need something quick and cheap that is better than gas station / 7-Eleven / Starbucks coffee.

I don’t use creamer/milk in any actual good coffee. I prefer my coffee black to actually taste it, and normally it’s already sweet without anything added. And don’t like drip coffee usually.

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3 points

I like MacDonalds coffee, but it is acidic, which I equate to the ‘breakfast blend’ Latin American type coffee that I assume it is. I can absolutely see that as tasting awful to some palates.

Also has been some years since I had the hot coffee. I did have their ice coffee a few years ago, and it was solidly okay for 1 CAD.

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It’s different in different markets. In Australia and New Zealand it’s usually a reasonably well made medium-dark blend.

You’ll get much better at any dedicated café, but it’s also miles better than sbux (who don’t even use real espresso machines).

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3 points

I mean it’s a low bar. Starbucks coffee is fucking terrible.

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It’s no contest for my taste buds. Black coffee from McDonald’s tastes like carbon, whereas coffee from Starbucks actually has a coffee flavor.

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4 points

I love the Starbucks sugar and fat loaded frappucinos.

Fortunately, there’s a unionized Starbucks near me! A little out of the way but I make the trip. I feel ok supporting that branch and only that branch.

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The reason is the app. If you’re in a hurry, being able to walk in and have your coffee ready is huge. I love to support the local coffee shops and I do on weekends, but it can be risky in the middle of the week if you’ve got to get to work and the local place has a long line or someone ahead of you orders a fancy drink and all you want to do is grab a cup of coffee, pay, and leave.

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82 points

Starbucks, do you remember when the German government lowered the VAT in July 2020 for restaurants when COVID hit us? The intention was to make food cheaper for the consumer to prevent restaurants from going bankrupt.

That’s the month you increased your prizes to sell your stuff for the same prize including VAT as before and making more profit, giving your customers a huge middle finger.

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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19 points

I’m fron Germany and have never bought anything there. There tax evation strategy is disgusting. They use our roads, our people, our country and pay close to 0 taxes in Luxembourg or Panama with money earned in Germany.

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7 points

Wow that’s BS. I don’t pay attention to them because I don’t drink their garbage coffee, and as an American this never crossed my radar from this angle either. Screw Starbucks.

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5 points

It wasn’t just starbucks. Also, people still went there to get coffee. I do not like those people.

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Started going to a small local coffee shop a little over two years ago, and I’ll never go back to the giant chains. The people working are always happy, greet regulars by name, always go out of their way to interact or talk with me- usually remember something we talked about before, comp my orders every now and then, host little events, etc. It’s not just them either - I always have a way better experience going to non-chain coffee places. Oh, and the coffee is always waay better and priced better.

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Sometimes I’ll work out of a small local cafe that roasts their own beans on site.

It’s insane how much better the coffee is for the same price, and they know my order before I even say anything.

Plus, I can get excellent beans from them to brew at home, and I’m supporting a local business instead of a megacorp.

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Dutch Bros is where it’s at. Actually good roasts and the same price or less. That said, I make my own Americano at home in about 2 min while making breakfast and it’s consistently great.

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4 points

Dutch Bro’s has some rule that the staff has to flirt with the customers. Creeps me out.

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I bought stock in them during their IPO and want them to succeed as a company since they’re from my home state, but honestly their coffee is terrible to me. I used to go there all the time but dislike it now after branching out more.

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Dutch Bros. has been good every time I’ve tried them. I don’t believe their coffee is markedly better than any other coffee chain. It comes down to how much you pay your staff, so that they give a shit about their jobs, so that tasks like roasting beans and cleaning equipment is done properly and regularly.

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Starbucks is known for its over roasted (burnt) flavor. That’s intentional. Dutch Bros doesn’t do that. Are they that much better than other smaller chains or independents? Probably not but they’re everywhere and easy to get in and out of.

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Bullshit on it being priced better. Provide examples, not anecdotes. Where are you located?

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Yeah! What’s your shoe size, OP? You got a dog? A cat? A mother? “Everyone” has one, right. You seriously expect us to believe that? Prove it! Come on, what’s her maiden name? Her date of birth? Her routing number! Where was she last thursday night, out back of bakers garage like she was supposed’ta be? Better make sure you get your facts straight OP, or me and my partner Flippy “The Iceman” here will show ya what we do to commenters down in jersey what don’t put up with our unreasonable demands, capiche?

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The first thing Starbucks did when they bought Teavana was increase the prices by 25 - 50%, despite them already being on the upper end of local looseleaf tea shops.

Combine that with the change from actual tea to sugar-added, Oprah approved crap signed the death warrant for that chain.

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