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205 points

They should try making good coffee

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The coffee is okay, but nowhere close to the price they’re asking for.

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The pricing is also egregious considering I can make a far better cup at home for less.

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You’ll always make a better cup of coffee at home for less.

But people pay a little extra for the convenience of not doing it. Starbucks however is banking on their reputation to overcharge, which seems to be finally backfiring.

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23 points

They make desserts using coffee as an ingredient. That’s why their coffee is shit at being coffee.

Vanilla makes a pancake delicious, but you wouldn’t drink it.

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9 points

but you wouldn’t drink it.

Hey I had to try it at least once!

(Also: at most once)

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1 point

You should try again

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11 points

And not supporting the RNC.

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There was an article during the convention that listed supporters. I’ll look for it.

ETA- my mistake. It was a fake that was shared on Facebook and Twitter. It must have been here too because i don’t have Twitter and my Facebook is only cats and relatives.

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Starbucks does not directly support the RNC. But that doesn’t mean that Starbucks’ lobbying money doesn’t primarily support Republicans. Per the PDF you linked, the majority of Starbucks’ contributions to lobbying organizations went to those that donate at least 75% of their lobbying to Republicans.

From your link: National Restaurant Association: 75% of all donations to Republicans; 50% of Starbucks’ donations to this organization went to lobbying Business Roundtable: “75 percent of donations from the median chief executive were directed to Republicans”; 40% of Starbucks’ donations to this organization went to lobbying

Edit: Added the word “lobbying” before “money” in the first paragraph. Should have been in the original.

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10 points

My sister used to manage a coffee shop and says they would never hire former Starbucks employees because they are trained to make it very poorly.

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Also, good pastries again.

The good cafes next to me all have fresh baked pastries from a local bakery. Not Starbucks. 7-11 has better food than Starbucks.

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They never will though. Recently, they had “expert tasters” test how long their espresso shots tasted good, and their result was that “Starbucks espresso shots last up to 90 seconds.” This just so happened to take place right as they started introducing a new system on how to sequence drinks while on the espresso and cold beverage bars lol.

(Also, as a footnote, Espresso shots die after 5-10 seconds; the crema just dissipates after then, making the shot taste acidic)

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So, off topic, but are you saying that I’m to drink a scalding hot, freshly pulled shot within 10 seconds!?

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Not exactly? Traditionally, it’s served in a 2oz cup and you would slurp it to coat your tongue and get all the flavors while not outright burning your tongue. Over at Starbucks however, we tend to pour steamed milk or ice on top to shock the shots and make them stay at one taste. A good example is a plain iced doppio espresso: it’s just ice poured over two shots, with sugar, syrup, and cream to preference.

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(Also, as a footnote, Espresso shots die after 5-10 seconds; the crema just dissipates after then, making the shot taste acidic)

Espresso shots “dying” within 10 seconds is a myth, apparently started by Starbucks’ training funnily enough. The flavour of a shot definitely dies down as it gets cooler and the crema dissipates, but it’s a matter of minutes rather than seconds before a shot tastes bad.

Heck it takes more than 10 seconds to get the drink to the clients in every café I’ve worked in. If espresso dies after 10 seconds, I have never served a good espresso. I’ve also apparently never had good espresso at work, because I swear every damn time I pull a shot for myself a client comes right in before I can take a sip :P

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When I read that comment the first time, I misunderstood, and thought they were saying espresso was over-extracted after 10s, dead after 90.

I know starbucks isn’t amazing, but 90s extractions would be a whole other ballgame!

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When your coffee tasting notes are “burned, charcoal, ash”, and you make up for it by offering £7 worth of sugar, it’s not surprising when people only shop there for so long.

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