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Isn’t Windows 10 suppose to be the last Windows release? We changed our minds.

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Cue the people freaking out about ‘ERM well only if it’s an offline machine’ lol

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I think the implication is that they will switch to Linux

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That was never mentioned in an official Microsoft communication.

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“Technically” lol I think one of their corp guys said it, but never endorsed it as a position.

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Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I’ll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn’t be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It’s even higher specced than many other ‘supported’ chips.

MS apparently just decided I hadn’t spent enough money lately. Well now I won’t - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

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Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven’t had a single problem with any of my games - I’m getting better framerates, too.

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Any reason you went with fedora? I’ve been partial to fedora for a decade, but last I knew it wasn’t recommended for a daily driver given the upstream fuckery from redhat.

Asking cuz I’m about two weeks from kicking win10 in the dick and moving to alma or something.

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I’m actually using Nobara, but it’s not very popular so I just say Fedora in day-to-day conversation. From my understanding, Fedora-based distros play better with Nvidia GPUs.

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If you’re into gaming, Bazzite is based on Fedora (SilverBlue, so immutable), and it works amazingly for gaming and everything else.

It was my first experience with anything Fedora after coming from Arch, and I have to say that I’m pleased.

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Everyone should use the most polished, solid and up to date distros. Opensuse and Fedora. There is no fucked up. Fedora is a serious project that Red hat uses to base their distro on. And Opensuse is German engineering. Serious is not even the correct word here, they are state of art distros.

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You’re also describing what happens on Windows. Gaming on PC requires some tinkering and knowledge. If you want to turn a machine on, install a game and play it you’ll buy a gaming console.

Regarding Mumble, Zerotier and XLink Kai, sorry to read that. Hopefully there’ll be something in their docs that help you or other alternatives you can switch to. Deep Rock Galactic can be a bit of a resource hog, but there’s probably a solution for that too. Have you used the latest community recommendations on it’s ProtonDB page? https://www.protondb.com/app/548430?device=pc

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Any good step by step explainers nowadays? Been over a decade sinceI set my last Linux machine up for a friend, and have been thinking about trying one for a Jellyfish server.

Knowing that my gaming PC could get a few extra frames might intrruige me into performing the upgrade there too if the jellyfish machine goes well.

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Most distros have a great getting started guide.

If you have an Nvidia card, make sure you’re looking at distros with Nvidia support and are using the correct installer version for Nvidia support.

Some great distros to look into with above in mind:

  • PopOS
  • Ubuntu: Nvidia requires a few additional terminal commands unfortunately.
  • Mint
  • Fedora
  • A handful of others that I’m sure you’ve seen mentioned

Also avoid Arch linux unless you’re ready to dive into the deep end of linux. As much as I thing it’s a great distro, and abstracts away a lot of the difficulties or Arch, Garuda Linux, should probabaly be avoided as well until you’re more comfortable with Linux due to its Arch roots (even if the docs are robust, they dive deep on tech concepts and require tons of requisite knowledge).

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I can help you through a fedora install, I just did it for the first two times myself. If you want to dual boot, it’s easiest to have windows set up first too, so you’re in good shape for that

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I’m in a similar boat. My computer meets all of the other requirements like TPM and whatnot, yet they are arbitrarily deciding that my processor is too old. And for some reason you can walk into your local computer store and buy a laptop with the shittiest processor and other specs possible that somehow runs Windows 11. Just because the processor on the new shitbox was manufactured more recently. Ridiculous.

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assuming you use steam, see which of your favorite games run with proton compatability layer and which absolutely require windows. You may be suprised.

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WINE works surprisingly well too. I’ve seen people talk about gaming on Linux using Lutris or launching it through Steam as a “Non-Stean game” but I just put my files in my WINE directory and have better success.

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I run everything on steam with proton that I did on my windows PC, nothing was left behind. If you ‘add a game’ from outside steam, you can run the installer and then change the game location to the executable. Ubuntu or Ubuntu mate are what I install on everything. Recommend.

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I have that same issue. My older laptop barely misses the cutoff, even though everything meets the requirements except the cpu. I have a newer laptop with Win11, and the old one runs circles around it. It’s faster and has way more RAM, yet somehow won’t run 11? I’m going to keep it and just run Linux instead. I’ll use the crappy Win11 lappy just for MS office and keeping papers from blowing off my desk.

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I’ll use the crappy Win11 lappy just for MS office

LibreOffice works very well. I use it often in a company that uses Office exclusively, and I’ve never had a compatibility issue.

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I use power query and so far haven’t found a replacement that works in Linux. Otherwise I would drop MS office altogether.

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In the same boat with the same CPU. The beast is running Cyberpunk 2077 fairly well at 1440p with a DLSS/ray tracing card but it can’t run Windows 11 🙄🙄🙄

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It boils down the CPU microarchitecture

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

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I figured it was related to the hardware architecture, but I’m curious if this is for security reasons (potential exploits that the OS can’t resolve) and/or just a support bandwidth concerns managing 2 OS code bases (on top of the obvious revenue from new licenses).

If the hardware security isn’t the issue, then switching to Linux is a good money saving choice for those that are tech savvy.

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I’m trying but the girlfriend refuses. She watches YouTube on the TV and does everything else on her phone; literally only uses the laptop to play The Sims 4 (which her 1080ti can handle just fine), yet she’s convinced that she will need a brand new gaming machine with a 4090/5090 as soon as Microsoft dumps WIn10. She’s afraid that she’ll completely break the OS if she switches to Linux. (Which is plausible, though unlikely.

I’m hoping she’ll change her mind as soon as she realizes just how much more GPUs cost these days, especially mobile ones.

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Create a live USB stick and demonstrate it to her, without deleting Windows. Bonus points if you rice the fuck out of it with some kawaii shit for your GF and make Sims 4 work with Wine.

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Wine need not apply. That’s old school. Sims 4 works great in proton. Basically just install steam and the rest is handled.

Better yet, install bazzite as your distro, gaming works out of the box.

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Use an immutable distro so even if she breaks it it’s easily fixed

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Install win 10 LTSC

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history Windows 10 ltsc 1809 will be supported until late 2029 if you or someone you know is set on continuing to use Windows 10

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If all she uses the computer for is playing Sims 4, another option is just let her continue to use Windows 10. If she’s running it through Steam she’s probably got another 3-4 years before that stops working.

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As others have suggested, I’ll probably just throw LTSC on it and call it a day. That’s what I did for my DJ laptop (the mixing hardware isn’t compatible with Linux), and it works phenomenally. It’s the perfect Windows OS for a single-use PC.

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Is she stupid?

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I have Linux on a jumpdrive can I install it on my main drive without it effecting my other drives?

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Only the drive you install it on will be affected, but the other drives likely won’t be formatted to work with Linux.

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Then how do I upgrade to Linux on my gaming computer.

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It’s called dual-booting, and yes there are so many tutorials availiable. But you have to be a little more careful in that process. I do dualboot but almost never uses windows. I have heard situation where windows updates messing linux installs on same drive. The safest route might be to do what others suggested but it is possibe to install that way. Be careful with partitioning and formatting. You also have to determine the sizes for each partitions yourself too

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I think so?

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This is me. I’ve always been too lazy to switch (I have some of the worst hardware for it. I’m running my old surface pro into the ground and have hardly any internal storage so hard to dual boot for testing).

But now, well hey, Windows 11 is stupid, windows 10 has been spying since forever.

Linux it is, thanks Microsoft for giving me the push I needed.

You know, later in the year. When I have to.

I’m only human

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Get that dual boot going, you can learn now and switch later.

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Innit 😂

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What is October 13, besides being the day before my birthday?

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Instructions unclear, now I’m using the Windows terminal to launch Ubuntu and also have it running in Hyper-V. How does that help me if my windows is out of support? /s

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Why does this exist lol

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On the one hand, rare Microsoft w to help users transition to their competitor.

On the other, they kinda yadda yadda over probably the biggest and most important part: choosing which of the billion distros is best for your needs and preferences…

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The distro choice isn’t that difficult, as if you have experience with Linux you know what you need, and if you don’t, just choose any beginner-friendly distro (probably Ubuntu flavors and Mint).

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It would be funny if they struck a deal with Canonical to start offering an upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 using some of the same dark patterns they use with Windows 11

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“Trade it”

TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

(Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

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Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on

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Every now and then a little devil on my shoulder says “you should set up a cluster computer that serves a secondary function as a smart space heater” and it’s gonna be really hard to ignore if the deals are good enough.

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Oh good. My PC is actually 11 years old. The hard drive died a few months ago. So I replaced the 3.5inch sata 7200rpm drive with an enclosure that holds 2 2.5inch drives. I’m using solid state for the first time. I was able to clone my Windows 7 drive to a solid state drive. It works even better than the original drive.

But! That enclosure makes it so that I can just turn off the PC, eject the drive, insert a different drive, and now I’m on an entirely different OS. It’s my first time using linux…it still sucks, but it’s useable. Last time I tried linux was right before I bought this PC 11 years ago. I tried using linux on a PC that previously was running Windows XP. I couldn’t even get it to boot. Now things generally work, but it has BEEN a constant struggle, and a constant learning experience.

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You’re… Still running windows 7?

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I got a pallet of PCs for about $200 a couple of years ago in an auction I didn’t expect to win. The only thing that stopped me from doing exactly that was the cost of enough cables to hook them all up for that purpose

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The prices have already been cratering for anything with 7th gen and older Intel CPUs. Full systems seem to be under $100 now where just a year or two ago they were around $200 or more

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Trade it in.

In other words, someone may be willing to pay you for parts, rather than you just getting nothing for it (recycling).

They are not going to recommend you use an alternative OS, and probably not because they’re worried about market share, but because they then have some responsibility for every time a person fucks up a Linux install.

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In other words, someone may be willing to pay you for parts,

Except for the parts that Windows obsoleted. Not saying that they’re valueless, but they certainly tanked the value of otherwise useful parts.

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SELL IT TO WHO, BEN? AQUAMAN???

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My thoughts exactly. Didn’t think anybody would get the reference.

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