Summary
Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers are pushing to classify vandalism against Tesla as domestic terrorism.
Trump declared that those damaging Tesla dealerships would face terrorism charges, calling the company “a great American company.”
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene and others urged the FBI and Attorney General to investigate alleged Democrat-linked NGOs behind Tesla attacks, though no evidence was provided.
Greene may have violated House ethics rules by advocating for Tesla while owning its stock.
I hate Elon and I don’t even disagree with targeting Tesla. But let’s be real. Mass targeted vandalism and especially arson are clearly forms of violence. The victims of this violence are civilians and the purpose of the violence is to achieve political goals through instilling fear.
Agree with the actions or not, that’s terrorism.
If people started targeting and burning down costcos for being woke/DEI, that would be terrorism for the exact same reason, not because the ideology is different.
People need to stop pussyfooting around the label and accept that words mean certain things. The issue is not whether or not it’s terrorism. The argument should be whether or not the actions are justifiable.
It’s like whinging about whether or not we say “Osama Bin Laden was killed” or if the person who shot him is a “killer” because killing in general is bad/wrong.
Now the government response of categorizing certain people vs others as terrorists matters. What it means for people resisting Trump matters. But those are different arguments.
Those who make peace revolution impossible make violent revolutions inevitable.
Buddy. This is pure rage. Terrorism is calculated. And comparing burning a Tesla to Osama Bin Laden is fucking laughable.
I wasn’t comparing Tesla to Osama Bin Laden? I was making an analogy to clarify my point of calling an obvious spade a spade. Terrorism doesn’t have to be calculated, it just has to be politically motivated. I happen to agree with the political motivations and stance of the violence in this case. That doesn’t change what it is.
And what is an analogy?
Terrorism by it’s definition needs to be calculated because it’s required to be in the furtherance of a specific outcome. You can’t have that without it being calculated.
It is bad practice to post links without also providing quotes from the source to support your claim. You are wasting the other person’s time.
I thought a link to a George Washington with the phrase “political violence” was self explanatory.
After 9/11 terrorism gained a much more negative connotation I think. Idk fully about what it was like before since I wasn’t alive but in Deep Space Nine you literally have a character who said she was a terrorist and that’s not really seen as like an inherently evil thing like it would be in the current day. I think people understood the nuance back then that sometimes terrorism ends up being justified when you’re fighting for freedom against an oppressor.
2A supporters are just a bunch of cucks and cowards. They just want their guns to “Ali Wong” themselves and not protect anything.
That dude is EMBEDDED.
Only people on the Left and Democrats hate Musk… this is what happens when a Republican is POTUS. The same shit happened when Biden was POTUS… the Right hated everyone and anyone associated with a Dem POTUS…
Yep. White supremacists groups backing Trump and shouting “the Jews will not replace us” is definitely the same as destroying private property.
The only difference is that the Trump told the proud boys to “Stand By”. The left couldn’t even get the Democrats to allow a Palestinian to speak at the DNC.
Let’s not pretend the “far left” is represented in DC. The “far right” is literally sitting in the white house as we speak. God, I wish we lived in this delusional world you crafted.
The Left literally is okay with antisemitism. We have politicians on the Left that are openly against Israel and Jews. Yet, no one seems to care among the Democrat party. I don’t condone the Proud Boys or Nazis, they’re all idiots. But “let’s not pretend” the Left is innocent in this political war.
I think it’s pretty antisemitic to equate all Jews with Israel. That would be like equating all Muslims with ISIS.
But I doubt it’s worth my time to try to explain this to you if you think not supporting Israel is antisemitic. If you still think this in 2025 nothing I say will help you. You have to be purposely closing your eyes at this point.
No one ever said hating Elon Musk was a crime but destroying private property is. Burning down charging stations, dealerships, and attacking strangers for the type of car they drive are absolutely acts of terrorism. At the end of the day independents decide elections. Do you think this behavior makes democrats more appealing? Is this going to swing voters in your direction? You guys have really lost your way and i feel sorry for you.
How dumb to blame democrats for the actions of leftists. Democrats don’t do shit.
Also, none of that shit is inherently terrorism. It’s vandalism or criminal mischief until you consider the “political element.” The political element isn’t a thing since Elon isn’t running DOGE (as they claim).
You cannot claim the vandalism at Tesla dealerships is politically motivated since you also claim Elon isn’t the one running DOGE.
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
Definition from the US House of Representatives:
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
© occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States; and
(6) the term “military force” does not include any person that—
(A) has been designated as a—
(i) foreign terrorist organization by the Secretary of State under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189); or
(ii) specially designated global terrorist (as such term is defined in section 594.310 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations) by the Secretary of State or the Secretary of the Treasury; or
(B) has been determined by the court to not be a “military force”.
While you can argue that coordinated acts of destruction against Tesla dealerships could be defined as domestic terrorism, individual acts of vandalism against Tesla vehicles do not fall under this definition, nor should they. Otherwise, you could classify someone like Banksy as a terrorist. Is that the kind of world you want to live in?
Man half the country is gonna be classified “terrorist” before we have another major vote again. You think people burning Teslas give a fuck about the democratic party that failed this country in a massive massive way for the last several decades.
No one burning Teslas gives a flying fuck about the Democrats. I really want to live in your world were the Democrats are “radical leftist” and it wasn’t just a few anarchist kids with some balls. I wish the Democrats had some teeth but they’re a sad pathetic planned opposition party.
You vote Fascism INTO power. It doesn’t let you just vote it out. Anyone burning a Tesla knows that.
Yes the people burning Teslas are obviously democrats. I’m much more interested in this fascism you speak of. Can you tell me any specific examples or experiences of fascism that you have endured? (There will be another election in 2026 btw.)
