Donald Trump has said Vladimir Putin was “doing what anybody would do” after Russia launched a massive missile and drone strike on Ukraine days after the US cut off vital intelligence and military aid to Kyiv.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Friday Trump said he finds it “easier” to work with Russia than Ukraine and that Putin “wants to end the war”.

“I’m finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine. And they don’t have the cards,” Trump said. “In terms of getting a final settlement, it may be easier dealing with Russia.”

Asked whether the Russian leader was taking advantage of the pause in US intelligence sharing and military aid to Ukraine, Trump replied: “I actually think he is doing what anybody else would do.”

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I mean, if Putin just wants to stop fighting, he could completely just you know: stop fucking fighting.

He’s the invader. He’s the fucking aggressor. Ukraine would happily stop fighting as they don’t want to fight.

Donald Trump is top tier fucking stupid and top tier Russian asset.

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Russia almost cannot “stop” if it means getting nothing. If they do Putin will lose support and money from his oligarchs/bitches.

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If they do Putin will lose support and money from his oligarchs/bitches.

That’s Putin’s problem. Let him join the defenstration-fest, the bloodthirsty greedhead, and Trump with him.

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I actually thought we should’ve had Putin assassinated years ago, but nobody cares what I think. I’m just an asshole who got kicked off of Reddit 

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Would he, though?

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Everyone who believes this shit is a victim of severe brainwashing. Nobody, not even an actual mental retard, would believe what Trump and putin are saying. It’s because Trump followers are victims of brainwashing. They are mentally ill.

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I mean, if Putin just wants to stop fighting, he could completely just you know: stop fucking fighting.

I cannot imagine a world in which Russia withdraws from the front lines and Ukrainian militants just call it a day. Way too much blood on the ground for people to just turn themselves off and call it done.

If Putin extended an offer that didn’t involve him eating the barrel of his own gun, Zelenskyy’s own guys would lynch him for taking it.

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Well, obviously Ukraine would chase the invaders back to the pre-2014 borders and then stop.

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That’s how wars always work. You stop at the other guy’s border because you’ve made your point.

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Didn’t they just stop fighting in ww1 ? I don’t think its the same but not impossible. True Putin should retreat and leave the Ukrainian soil.

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Stopping fighting is how most wars ended. It’s not a fucking cage match between two militaries that only ends after every person in one of the two militaries is dead.

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Putin meanwhile gave out very lenient peace terms in 2022

Putin invaded in 2014 seizing Crimea. Ukraine did not attack Russia.

Putin invaded Donbas and Luhansk just months later. Ukraine signed multiple peace deals which Putin violated at that time.

Putin performed a full scale invasion of Ukraine in Feb 2022.

Nothing about Putin has offered peace terms for Ukraine that Putin honors. He’ll keep violating any “peace” deals until he controls all of Ukraine or he’s dead.

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And nations are now realizing that Trump doesn’t fall far from the tree. He just prefers assets to land.

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  1. The post-Maidan government conducted massacres in Eastern Ukraine against unarmed protestors like in Mariupol where the AFU alongside Azov fired into an entire crowd. Russia justified its annexation of Crimea because it made an agreement with the legitimate government of Ukraine before Maidan to continue their lease over Sevastapol. Russia stated that the formation of this illegimate government threatened military infrastructure in Crimea which they rightfully owned due to an agreement with the previous government. Russia also named the massacres that were being conducted in Eastern Ukraine to annex Crimea to safeguard the lives of people in Crimea.
  2. You mean a civil war broke out between the new illegitimate government and those in Eastern Ukraine who supported the legitimate government. Russia did provide support to them that is true I guess.
  3. Due to Ukraine’s violations of Minsk II.
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The russian apologist strikes again…

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Well at least someone is apologizing; Russia doesn’t appear to have any intention to do so.

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Begone, propagandist. Peace is elusive because the Russian government has engineered the situation to be so. That you think they were “likely” to drop an obvious showstopper clause means absolutely nothing; the actual parties to the negotiation clearly did not feel that to be true.

For others who want more insight on how the 2022 talks unfolded: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html

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Every fan of Putin I have ever met gave off, “my wife left me for another man,” vibes.

This post, in particular, radiates those vibes more than any other post of this category I have seen.

People often ask how you can tell if a particular post is one paid for by Putin himself, or by a true believer. The ones written by paid trolls aren’t as pathetic as this one is. They don’t make you feel sorry for the person writing it.

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I never had a wife. I am an unemployed loser. So I think you have a hard time reading vibes.

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Remind me - how many times has Putin actually kept to the terms of a ceasefire? Cause that’s exactly what he’s known for.

In the end, we all know:

-Putin is an asshole

-Ukraine did not pose the slightest military threat, and were not the aggressors

So, when it comes down to it, fuck Putin and his so called “lenient” terms. Bruising Putin’s ego is not, in fact, a crime.

Everyone knows Putin will not settle for peace. He just wants to fix supply side issues to continue the offensive. You know this. It’s not that you don’t see the evil in that man; you defend it because you support it anyway.

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Russian troll, nothing to see here.

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Yes because everyone you disagree with, is a Russian troll.

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So, do you actually believe the stupid shit you’re saying, or are you getting paid for this?

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do you actually believe the stupid shit you’re saying

Westerners only believe the stupid shit their domestic government tells them. Putin-shills only believe the stupid shit Putin tells them. So he’s clearly a Putin shill (or a bot or a Wumao, who can say?)

Obviously, Ukrainians must fight to the last man because Russia is run by exterminationists. But please don’t ask why Western hedge funds are salivating to get into Western Ukraine and claim all the formerly public land.

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Did Trump write this?

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Too literate. This bozo at least writes at a high-school level.

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I am not aware of myself being an orangutan.

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2 day old account spewing this dribble

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They’re being an apologist piece of shit, but it doesn’t justify ableism like that.

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Rude.

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Against an enemy who just lost funding and intelligence. No shit, you fucking psychopath.

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Could he be more of a bitch to Putin? For all his egomaniacal fragile masculinity, he sure excels at being a submissive to Musk and Putin.

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Well Musk funded his campaign and Putin interfered in the elections at least the 2016 elections and used reverse psychology in the last elections by endorsing Kamala Harris.

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Did the troll farms disappear for 2020 and 2024?

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Nope.

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Traitors one and all and history will remember them as such. I’m Canadian and as angry as I am about the huge mess happening between my country and the USA, I’m even angrier about Ukraine. At least Canadians aren’t being killed or having tens of thousands of our children stolen away. I cannot understand the eagerness with which MAGA has embraced Putin. Looking at history until now, I never thought siding with a dictatorial warmongering Russia would be a core Republican value.

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From an American:

Hey Europe, fucking pay attention. We are switching sides. Pax Americana is done. This isn’t the country you thought you knew. We’re going to walk noisy as fuck and carry a stick we’ve whittled away because we wanted to sell parts off of it.

Please don’t assume that everything is going to be alright. It’s not. I don’t want to see you guys go down with us.

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There will be some struggles but nobody is going down, there is a big difference between trying to overthrow a government and actually doing it

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I hope you’re right, but it’s not looking promising.

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It’s early days; very easy to assume things will remain mostly the same but with higher prices, and supply issues. Maybe the odd disease?

I don’t think many people understand how the USA works, and keeps itself together, I don’t. Obviously there is inertia that going to keep things more or less stable.

But if a system is stressed and then something else happens, totally out of left field, history is just filled to the brim of unlucky coincidences affecting large swathes of peoples

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higher prices, and supply issues. Maybe the odd disease?

That’s what I meant by struggles

You make it sound like the US will be completely erased from existence, that’s not how reality works, countries don’t just disappear, they change and sometimes into multiple smaller countries but they’re the same people and I think that’s the most important defining factor of a country.

I agree that such a change will have a negative short term impact but if everybody goes to protests, apply civil disobedience and maybe a general strike the risk of violence goes way the fuck down and the only dangers are the ones from lack of resources and rapid spread of illness but these will be fixed long term

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Nice 2 day account you got there

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