I wonder why? I have been here for a couple of days and itās nice so far.
Iāve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.
Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and theyāre just getting high off the ashes.
Using ānormiesā unironically is one of the reasons Lemmy is a huge turn off. Normal people donāt talk like that, and it makes you look stuck up.
This really isnāt true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OPās search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, thereās plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OPās image, was positive about it.
I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. Itās either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isnāt the case.
i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp ābanā while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.
also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.
they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, got unbanned, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog. the account was on sjw, posts were to communities in .ml and lw
This right here is why the public mod log is one of the best things on the internet.
this is my first acc on lemmy, i had no idea that was a seperate login. whats ML?
Lemmy has a feature called federation, which means that anyone can setup their own lemmy server and run it how they want, but it will connect to all the other servers, so they share the same posts. lemmy.ml is one server, but it has some tankies who are people who think authoritarian regimes, like soviet russia, were good.
Search manipulation or just shitty Reddit search?
Google search for ālemmyā site:reddit.com/r/redditalternatives provides different top results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/151v9vo/lemmy_explained_in_a_nutshell/
Hell yeah! Consider sticking around for a bit. Donāt forget that you have the power to block individuals, communities, and even entire instances if youāre having a bad time. Not sure if reddit gives you all that power, but it has its uses!
Not sure if reddit gives you all that power
It does not. Was one of the reasons that I abandoned it when they blocked third party clients. I resent being forced to view right-wing propaganda, rage-bait, and ads as well as being forced to short by opaque algorithms that are clearly intended to manipulate.
same, reddit is slowly turning into FB, with all the right wing narratives, 90% of the post is about trump, its the same thing MSMs did to get him into the WH. while it maybe ācenter rightā it mostly gives avenues for right wingers to āsee what we told you guysā, i pointed that out on many subs. people are just lapping all the bs thats comes out, liek trump did this goof, like it matters. despite them being critical of trump, it actually gives 24/7 coverage outside of X and MSMs.
you can block invididuals, and turn off replies, but its often not effective, because if you go back to the orignal convo you blocked, you can see them bitching that you blocked them, oh and they created another account so they can evade your own block(since they cant join your convo thread in a subreddit. often times they will retaliate by reporting you for blocking them. and risking reporting them, can put you at odds with a mod, say you cant make too many reports.
Fuck you @iStone@feddit.org!
There ya go.
I can only see one of those two posts (the second one) and itās pretty well reasoned (I donāt agree though, just saying they did provide their reasoning in more than enough words imo). If youāre interested, hereās the link.
To summarize it:
- UI worse than New Reddit (I personally agree with it being at least just as bad, thatās why I didnāt go to Lemmy)
- Big instances are laggy (remember, the post is from 7 months ago not today, so donāt compare the statement to how they are now)
- Bad mod tools (a common complaint I see about Lemmy)
- Too much far left and tech focus (another common complaint)
- Itās not active enough (yet another common complaint)
- Shitty mods (I disagree with the specific claim made about them being worse than Reddit ones, but Iāve definitely seen at least one shitty mod here so far, and too many are neglectful)
- Lemmy developers are Maoist (fact iirc)
- The community is filled with far left extremists, Mao worshippers, dictator bootlickers, and genocide supporters (the one actually unreasonable take imo which indicates they went to the wrong instance)
The user got banned by the automod in the first one.
ashenblood 45 points 7 months ago
You got banned by the automod because your account was less than 24 hours old and you received 40 downvotes on a post. That filter is in place to combat spambots and trolls, because normal users are unlikely to trigger it by getting so many downvotes so soon after making an account
I messaged the admin and they already unbanned your account. ā¦
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1e0xugs/stay_away_from_lemmy/
Lemmy tastes like reddit that I have grown in my backyard garden.
so small and bitter but you just smile through it and say āitās so good! š¢ā?
maybe I donāt know how to grow stuffā¦
You kind of just tipped your hand at your gardening ability. And also that youāve never had a real tomato.
I argue mostly everyone here never had a real banana. No, the ones in the stores arenāt the original flavor.
you are correct, I have been known to somehow kill a cactus or two.
Spider plants are going insane though, dispute losing >50% of them to the cold and rain this winter they are still living just fine. Theyāre like the plant version of cockroaches
Even last year when my tomatoes did poorly they still taste so much better than supermarket ones. Tbh outside a greenhouse I donāt think they really grow very well in the UK at all but I was given them so decided to try in the garden.
Main things I am growing is rosemary, thyme, sage, chives, mint, garlic and opium. But I kinda want to start guerrilla gardening some fruit bushes. Raspberries would be nice to plant around town.
Idk I kind of like Lemmy so far š¤·
I donāt get the hate this place gets. Itās been really interesting watching Lemmyās growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.
Agreed. I never even had Instagram or twitter but Iāve become a pixelfed and mastodon lurker after enjoying Lemmy for 1+ years. The comment section here is miles ahead of reddit, where you get repost after repost and the same old tired jokes in every comment section.
The fediverse is fantastic and Iām happy to be a (very minor) part of it.
Iām almost 40, this place reminds me of the early internet in a good way. Like, people connecting and sharing ideasā¦ what even Reddit used to feel like. Sure, sometimes there are arguments but, due to the lack of an āoutageā algorithm to juice engagement, you usually only hear about it unless itās something you directly follow. With the lack of profit motive on the side of the platform and hosting end of things, it appears that trolls and clout chasers have a genuine hard time monopolizing everyoneās attention.
Iām a little older and while all my buddies were on the internet in the early days it didnāt interest me but I was well aware of how it functioned.
I was a reddit lurker back when it was cool and a place to gain knowledge (depending on the sub) then a few years back finally becoming a user until the last couple years seeing it really go down hill fast turning into a typical " social media platform"
Leemy gives me a sense of nostalgia for something I missed out on in the past. ā¦And I donāt feel like an asshole scrolling in my spare time
I havenāt really seen it outside of the like normal levels of hate. Which subLemmys or whatever are you seeing it on?
Just in general there is no level of chill. I have the down votes completely disabled
I blame Tankies. Theyāre too aggressive with their āliberals this, liberals thatā bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesnāt know what a Tankie this.
Hexbear and LemmyGradās bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.
I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. Theyāre ruining Lemmy.
Quite frankly Iām not looking forward to the renewed deluge of Reddit opinions like āthe US Army is socialismā
I blame the anti-tankies. Like this is the only site i even see the termed even used and it looks like a weird hysteria for most. The community is already smal so it looks relay wired. Even this whinny attitude of blocking every one on this tiny space give real off vibes.
they already have thier safe spaces on r/consevative, conspiracy, and trueunpopular opinon, but they whine on other subs that th ey are still get censored, or the so-called left is in an echo-chamber ever since trump won. even though those sub is mostly run by russian state owned bot system.
Can confirm - Iām new here and when I see pieces of shit whoād be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesnāt make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point Iāll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.
people my grandfather killed in WWII
YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2
Only way you believe this is if youāre extremely priviledge so that politics donāt impact your life or ignorant about the fact that it does.
My beef with Lemmy:
- Itās weighted towards politics
- Not a lot of niche sub critical mass yet (though this is not its fault at all)
- But holy moly, itās a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! Iām (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
For the moment, I just donāt engage in political discussion on Lemmy. It is way to extreme for me in general. It makes sense tho that those who donāt feel their opinions fit anywhere else (or get them banned etc.) gather in a place that allows for freer discussion, which I think is a good thing really.
And also just posting about niche music makes me happier than getting angry online soā¦ Thatās been a good motivation.
frankly, lemmy is literally only place I have found where you can discuss politics reasonably. I also try to rid myself of any pride about being right about anything and actually look forward to being called out if someone thinks iām wrong. Then I can take a look at what they say and adjust my own opinions if the other guy makes sense.
Though i dont go to .ml, they seem more interested in witch hunts than making anything better.
Honestly I think your approach is closer to the ideal: itās pretty poisonous to the mind if most of the content you take in is political in nature. You need to explore other stuff too, broaden horizons and all that.
Iāve been learning how to design parts with CAD software and 3D print it. Also got a home server going to host games and media, among other things. These hobbies keep me sane, and thatās what Iām ultimately getting at: people need to get a hobby that isnāt about being mad on the internet.
Also instead of just whining on the internet, its far more effective to engage in local politics and build up a base of people there than hoping that āsomeoneā will do āsomethingā about the whole country. That āsomeoneā has to come from somewhere: create the grassroots that can be the base from which change springs.
Can I ask what resources your using to teach yourself CAD? I want to learn it as well.
Thatās probably for the best Jamie Oliver - you do have a public persona to consider.
I donāt have any problems being occasionally politically incorrect on lemmy. Even if you get tons of downvotes, so what?
Itās not about downvotes. It is about me not wanting to spend my free time on something as pointless as arguing politics on the internet. Generally extremely unfulfilling and I feel like I lost out afterwards.
Like I get why people enjoy it but for a lot of people it is mainly a negative experienceā¦
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your āagreeing with everyone elseā, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your āagreeing with everyone elseā, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
The rando-ban problem on reddit is its biggest flaw. Iām afraid to submit anything there. And I generally only comment in small subs.
But holy moly, itās a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! Iām (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
I saw people advocating for damaging peopleās Teslas and it was fucking stupid. Beyond the fact that many people are not in a position where they can just get rid of a car over political reasons, it is likely many or even the majority of Tesla owners do not vote Republican (conservatives have been much slower to adopt EVs): youāre very likely going to damage vehicles owned by totally innocent people.
I own a non-Tesla EV but either way it would be excessively expensive to switch to another car on a whim, and I sure as hell am not going to deprive my family just because seeing my carās brand hurts peopleās feelings.
Agree with the sentiment, I feel like cybertrucks deserve an exemption though, agree or disagree?
If this is your form of protest at least target someone who has materially contributed to this state of affairs, and by that I donāt mean random Republican voters.
but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things!
So what? Do it anyway. Who cares about downvotes? Sounds like discussions can benefit from your input.
Iāve pointed out more than once that the phrase āPalestinian Genocideā is hyperbole.
I feel like 3 kinda comes with the territory of politics. The sort of people who mod political forums have more rigid ideas of what ideas should prevail in the discourse than someone modding a board for embedded electronics, not that thatās an inherently bad thing.
It just feels worse because a greater portion of Lemmy is politics; here Iāve caught bans for being insufficiently pro-Kamala months after the election or not going along with a china bad circlejerk, but at reddit people catch bans for āJohn Brown did nothing wrongā or just posting footage from Palestine.
the gaza/palestine thing is very tricky, many of the subs have been infiltrated by pro-israeli mods, early on the war, they were spamming ājews are doing nothing wrong, if we jews dont destroy them they will destroy usā, i pointed out in one, where the war was instigated and started by the same person who is keeping himself out of jail in israel.
Pro-zionist sentiment was definitely prevalent on here following Oct 7th. It took many months for anti-zionist sentiment to outpace it, thanks to many people debunking their misinformation and sharing articles that showed the reality that most Western Media downplayed if not ignored
On places like reddit, we mostly continue to see more and more banning of anything anti-zionist. r/Palestine might be the only place left that isnāt aggressively pro-zionist on there
Lemmy Leftists feel like that old Emo Philips joke at times.
Apparently anyone not wanting to live in a grey soviet tower block and have all their worldly possessions be redistributed by the state is a āfucking Libā
People who call themselves āleftistsā and hate āliberalsā are almost always Stalinists or Communists. āLeftā is actually a word that covers an entire spectrum of left of center: liberals, ultraliberals, and radical.
The irony is that the Stalinists are using a misleading inclusive word āleftistā, but historically Stalin and Lenin considered all the other leftist parties in Russia to be their main enemy, not people on the right. Members of these 2 leftist parties were their very first victims. All of them were killed or sent to the Gulag. And then later Stalin made an alliance with Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Revolutionary_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks <ā this party was originally the very same party as the Bolsheviks and was the majority faction.
I got banned from the Star Trek Memes sub, or something, for very mild trolling. I donāt even remember what earned it, I think I said I canāt get my head around an animated Star Trek and canāt accept it as canon or something, and then the trolling was just me doubling down on that opinion (which is an actual opinion). People do love their fandoms.
star trek is wierd, theres like 2 types of fans, the old trek and the nutrek crowd, the nutrek crowd is wierd becuase the series that came out since 09 sucks balls.
I had my comments deleted by some authoritarian nerd mod on one of those star trek communities for shitting on Discovery. Apparently, by having a negative opinion, I wasnt creating a welcoming atmosphere.
STD was such a garbage show, how did people find it good also there were continuity problems too , kurtzman abandoned the klingons look, and thier cloak behind, because he couldnt explain it.
Ah, just what the Federation would aspire to: the silencing of any critical thought by undemocratically-installed secret leaders. Really does seem like the mod is a fan of NuTrek retcons.
(Secret because the mod log is usually obfuscated to users, so they donāt even know which mod deleted their comment to appeal the decision)
i argue that there arent really any niche communities. if I see a site with slow and limited posts, and 0 comments on most of those posts, can I really call that a community? i like video games and furry stuff. the video game and furry stuff sites have next to nothing on them. apparently the only āgeeksā here are Linux users who only talk about Linux distros or tankies who hate everyone and everything
Lucky youā¦ I managed to get banned once, for not being āleftā enough. So I just donāt engage in specific kind of topics anymore.
