Men - you are thin therefore we don’t make pants long enough for you
The opposite issue for me: Big ass, big thighs, short legs.
I’ve given up and now I tend to just buy women’s pants.
That is better than the opposite. You can have your pants hemmed and taken in where required. It is harder to add material.
I feel like people these days don’t utilize tailors enough. You can improve a lot of off the rack clothing.
Yeah, I’ve had that problem. One of the nice things about Reddit was r/tallfashion – acc had links to stuff with decent waist and inside leg. Have found some women’s trousers pretty good for that too.
But women’s pants are cut for people that don’t have genitals sticking out of their crotches. How do you avoid uncomfortable smashing?
Women’s pants are also bad about that. I was underweight from stress during my breakup and most women’s tall sizes start at a “6” which is like a men’s 32, more or less. I was not that big at that point. And to make matters worse, many of the allegedly tall pants just have a longer inseam and are not longer in the rise, as though all difference in height is just legs.
Gap makes tall men’s (I just checked and they go down to 32"waist and have 36" inseam and right now the slim fit is so, so cheap in price) and women’s pants, they actually do make them tall not just longer inseam. I am not tall enough for their tall pants but get the best fit by buying tall and hemming them, because standard fit (to the extent it even exists in women’s clothing) is wedgie city, not long enough. They also make tall shorts, which is amazing,they actually fit.
It’s pretty annoying when I go to the clothing store, or Costco, or whatever, and everything is like size 46+ waist. I’m not sure if that’s all that is left because all of the average sizes were sold out, or if that’s the average size so they have a lot of them. Looking around at my fellow shoppers I think it’s the former, but again, I’m not sure.
What? I’m not slim, neither fat, I’m about average dude, but I rarely ever find pants that aren’t too long. Maybe it’s EU thing, but nearly every time I put on regular pants I feel like a scuba diver with the excesive pants as “fins”. Last pants I bought “short” version and I’d still need about inch shorter…
And the back pockets are always sewn shut on anything not jeans.
Ok, why the fuck are pockets sewn shut at all??? I’m a guy and I see clothes like this too. It pisses me off so much, it was so close to being useful, most of a pocket is already there, why would they just give up?
fake pockets look nice. If you need functional ones, just pop the stitching. Usually, the stitching keeping the pocket closed is very weak compared to normal seams.
Except they’re not fake. My girlfriend has several pairs of work pants with actual real pockets that have just the opening sewn shut so you can’t use them. Why, just why?
You can easily answer this question yourself by looking inside/turning the pants inside out.
It’s an actual pocket but I didn’t find this out until I was an adult - I thought that’s how they were made for a reason and if I cut the thread, it would make a hole in the pants. Nope, regular pockets just sewn shut for some reason.
I think I was in my 30’s before someone told me the truth. It was a man IIRC lol…but yeah my mom never knew I guess, friends at school, etc, or if they did they didn’t tell me because I guess they never noticed.
Things will only have useful size metrics when the buyers want useful size metrics.
Men’s pants come with useful size metrics because they’re useful and we attach very little meaning to the measurement of men’s pants.
Women’s pants come with stupid size metrics because we attach a lot of meaning to the measurement of women’s pants.
It’s the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
When was the last time you measured your waist and then tried on a pair of pants?
Men’s clothing has tones of vanity sizing these days.
The cuts of fabric are cut with dies. A layer of fabric is place down and a press presses the cutting die down to cut out the shape. A cheap manufacturer over stacks how many sheets are cut at ones. Top layer is going to be bigger then the bottom layer.
I expect there is much more hand cutting going on than you realize. To have multiple styles and different cuts would require giant warehouses of dies. Those aren’t cheap and wouldn’t last long in a production environment. Any change would require a new die. The machine shop would need to be as big as the cut sew shop.
One skilled (or trained) operator can change from pants to shirts on a whim. You’ll notice almost all clothing is made in far off places where labour is cheap. Not to say there isn’t die cut stuff, but overwhelmingly the textile industry is hand made.
These things are how multiple layers of fabric gets cut.
It’s the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
In Germany the packaging indicates the [Edit: diameter half circumference] in millimeters ±2mm tolerance. Because, you know, size matters here.
Half circumference? Why?
(Yeah I zoomed in. It’s 52mm, which is fractionally over 2 inches)
The literal translation of what’s on the box makes it easier to understand:
Width of the condom when laid flat: 52 mm
It’s simply the easiest width measure you can do yourself.
So that thing is 4 inches across? Eek!
Edit: oh, you said “half circumference”. For some reason I thought that I read diameter.
It did read “diameter”. I remembered it wrong and corrected my mistake. Sorry for not highlighting the edit. I did so now.
Said someone who’s never shopped for men’s clothes.
I bought two pairs of jeans the other day, both exactly the same size, both the same style, but just different colors. The blank ones fit, the blue ones do not fit, explain that.
My personal theory is that each pair is manufactured in a different factory, and their tolerances are so ridiculously lacks that they can produce different products the same supposedly identical blueprint.
I bought two pairs of jeans the other day, both exactly the same size, both the same style, but just different colors. The blank ones fit, the blue ones do not fit, explain that.
I’ve experienced the same issue, not just with the waist but also the inseam!
G-Star jeans are notorious for this; same style (eg. 5620s), same fit (eg. Skinny), different colours but different colours: I can fit in the 33, and 32, but the 34 is too small currently (I put in a few kg).
Shoes really piss me off. I can wear wear anything from a size 11 to a 14 depending on the year, month, day, and hour of the day. I tried to buy a pair of slippers last winter. I tried on a pair clearly labeled ‘Size 14’ at the insistence of my Wife. I couldn’t get them even half ways on my foot…
The explanation I have always received in the store for this, is that some shoes have stretchier material than others and it’s up to the manufacturer whether they consider the shoe size to be the material unstretched or stretched. Seems like a daft allowance but there you go.
What’s the point in a non-standardized standard?
Ya it happens a lot with different colorways. Often the black one is different than the others as the dyeing process is different and can affect the shrinkage. They were likely the exact same size before they were dyed and poor QA processes allowed one to become way different afterwards.
This is very true. Men’s pants are tagged with their waist size and will also normally have their leg length on the tag. I’ve got a fairly big belly so I have a large waist size compared to my height so this is useful.
Having to do the mental mathematics to consider which size I am or having to try on the clothes to get an understanding would be a major pain.
Nah. Mens pants sizes are just as wild and wrong as womens sizes.
Its vanity sizing, everywhere
I went to get a couple of pairs of jeans from a Plato’s closet recently. I tried 6 pairs of different brand jeans, all 34/32. 4 pairs didn’t clear my thighs, 1 couldn’t button, the last fit. The cut of the jeans makes those numbers mean very different things…
Cut is part of it, but they literally aren’t consistent about the length of the cloth, even with the same number shown.
“Boot cut” or “skinny” 34 waist from every single brand will differ, even if the cut was exactly the same.
I once bought 2 of exactly the same pants at the same time, after having the same one from a year earlier and liking it that much. They were both different to my original one and different to each other. I had to send the too tight one back and the replacement was different yet again. Seems like people just do not care enough that there is next to no standard.
no standard.
My only charitable theory is that vendors order clothing in batches with only a general description being passed between batch runs. No CAD drawlings in the whole industry.
But all of my 3 pants must have been from the same batch but still deviated more than 1 inch in waist size to the previous specimen. So one was too small to wear, the other needing a belt.
