351 points

Remember, girls: any male friend you know that votes for Trump probably sees you as a piece of meat and wants to own you like property.

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Imagine befriending a Trump voter. No thanks.

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My mom a brown person liked trump last election whilst my father who follows politics hated him. Some people just don’t know and that’s a problem. My mom now hates him.

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There’s some growth. I have a friend who I almost lost after he voted for Trump the first time. His excuse was the whole propaganda drain the swamp, and businessman running the country thing. He hates Trump now too and has since gone more toward the middle and Def stopped being and voting for reds. Baby steps.

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17 points

I can 100% forgive people who voted for him the first time around but later realized that was a mistake.

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3 points

imagine having Trump-worshipers in-laws.

oh wait, I don’t have to imagine, that’s just my reality.

FML.

(my wife is cool tho)

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Ypur the fucking problem here. Going to extremes and shouting at teacher aboyt how you hate each other is exactly what both sides want. They want you distracted with your petty little issues while they consolidate your wealth in their pockets.

You used to be the laughibg stock of the western world and it seems that all Americans regardless of political outlook have no intention of changing that.

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Don’t date conservatives, don’t sleep with them, don’t befriend them, don’t associate with them, being MAGA should result in your total ostracization. Unless you’re in a situation where you have to, where cutting ties or ending the relationship/friendship will make you unsafe or put your livelihood or your home life at risk, you should cut them off. I cut ties with a lot of old friends who became conservatives. It’s not a normal tolerable thing to be conservative. No one who believes the things they do should be tolerated. Their beliefs should, at the least, come at the cost of their relationships and friendships.

Conservatives do not respect human rights and human dignity. They do not believe that men and women are equal, that rich and poor are equal, or that black people and white people are equal. They’ll make a facade of tolerant behavior that immediately crumbles under any scrutiny to show their bigotry. These bigots have governed every conceivable aspect of our lives for far too long.

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38 points

Cut ties with a friend when he said the Jan 6 terrorists were justified. He lost a lot of friends then. Like literally every mutual friend of ours was done with him after that.

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35 points

Well said!

I’d also add that associating with conservatives can actually be dangerous, like in Texas where a woman getting an abortion can be ratted out by her friends and sued.

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3 points

Or in Tennessee where getting a minor trans healthcare without their parents knowledge and consent means said parents can sue you.

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31 points

In my life the only people who have stolen from me were all conservatives. Ironic given how obsessed they all are with their own property and “the law”.

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22 points

That’s because what they’re really obsessed with is ‘rules for thee but not for me’.

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Jon waters summed it up nicely:

“If you go home with someone and and they dont have books, dont fuck them.”

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What if you get all of your books from the local library? Should I flash my library card as a turn on?

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0 points

This is pretty outdated. Physical books aren’t the only way to get information or read stories any more.

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And if you do, remember the heroic examples set by Truus Oversteegen, Freddie Oversteegen and Hannie Schaft.

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Don’t date conservatives, …, don’t associate with them, being MAGA should result in your total ostracization.

The closest I ever got to this with family was when I invited my folks to a semi-fancy wine and cheese kinda place and my stepdad showed up wearing an “LGBT - Liberty, Guns, Beer and Trump” t-shirt. But he was never very politically coherent - he literally complained about “socialized medicine” when they were debating the ACA during the Obama admin while sitting in a hospital bed filling out the paperwork to apply for medicare. He spent his last few years angrily bitching about immigrants, despite being a German immigrant and also bitching about any time he had to supply his citizenship paperwork in any context as though the very idea he ever had to prove his citizenship was offensive.

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41 points

I straight up walked out of a date once bc someone tried to hide voting for trump

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I went out on a date with a woman who actually did that to me, then tried to turn the date into a loud and aggressive Trump stump speech. This was back around 2015, right before the election. The waiter actually came and helped me get out of it. These people operate on another plane of reality. I sincerely wonder if she’s still drinking the Kool-Aid.

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12 points

unsuccessfully stuffs MAGA hat into fanny pack

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I’m in San Francisco, not just the Bay Area. 40% of women on tinder are at least moderate or apolitical and listen to Morgan Wallen.

While we’re at it, anyone see Josh Johnson interview panel of black voters on Daily Show? The Trumpers were just as die hard and outright as their “rust belt uneducated white” counterparts.

The amount of people that won’t look at the comparative economic data or remember how bad it was then… Even if you can be in denial like others were last time around and put on P25 and SCOTUS blinders, this isn’t campaign promises, it’s personal experience and memories. I’m terrified.

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33 points

There are women who vote for Turnip as well… I wonder what the gender ratio of fascists is.

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Unfortunately, around half of the Trump voters are women. Turns out men and women actually seem to favor fascism pretty equally.

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4 points

I think it was france with a high percentage of female far right voters

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It’s rather balanced. This article says 32% of women voted far right and 36% of men at the last EU elections. https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2024/07/05/legislatives-comment-le-rn-parvient-il-a-seduire-les-femmes_6246971_3224.html The fact that the leader of the far right is a woman and doesn’t have a virilist stance with sexist speeches probably plays a role. They keep an ambiguous stance on women’s right progressive laws.

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Why they want the Catholic 10 commandments, instead of combining “I am your god” and “have no other gods besides me”, the Catholic version splits those into two commandments, and take the last two and merges them: “Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife … or any of his other property.”

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This comment made me head to Wikipedia to read up on the differences.

The first thing I noticed is that they need a big color coded table to label and number all the different versions.

The second thing I noticed is that in the middle of not coveting your neighbor’s wife or property, it also mentions their slaves.

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3 points

The one true word of God, now in 2000 versions to fit any viewpoint! Religion is absurd.

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6 points

Just a guy looking for my boardwalk!

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4 points

This line of logic is a good advice to help politically disengaged women, but isn’t going to convince men to abandon Trump.

The ratio of conservative women to men is roughly 50/50. It’s not an effective tactic to convince men to stop supporting Trump, when the women they’re likely to be dating are Trump supporters anyway.

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Anyone that is politically engaged has already made up their mind. Keep trying, sure, but don’t waste too much of your energy on them.

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Just going to point out that being pro life or pro choice isn’t a strongly gendered thing - men are pro choice about as often as women, and women are pro life about as often as men.

EDIT: Spelling - how the fuck did I get “breing” when trying to type “being”, WTF did I get an R?

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Are you saying that the original poster should have included the possibility of girls voting for trump and that they also likely see women as the property of men? Id agree with that. Seems to be a subset of Americans that believe in tribal differences.

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-99 points

Thats ridiculous. My options are trump or a genocider with dementia. Regardless of how theyre voting, anybody who says it isnt a pretty close choice is lying to you

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46 points

beep boop. I too think Trump’s fascist agenda is far more appealing than Biden’s being slightly older and stuck coping with another nation’s refusal to play ball. Boop beep.

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-18 points

Obviously, because everybody who disagrees with you is a russian bot.

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My options are:

  1. “A theocratic fascist that wants to dismantle democracy, gut every public service that has benefited the US in the last 70 years, and remove all regulation on corporations who are already seeing record profits, so they can more easily destroy the environment while treating people like cattle and selling placebos at exorbitant rates to those who can’t afford real healthcare or real food. Oh also the whole “kill the gays, enslave the poor” and the like.”

Or

  1. “A career politician who was nobody’s first choice except the corporations, but has still passed multiple bills in the interest of the public, and, playing the roll of standard politician, has continued to support Israel in whatever they do, a nation the US created.”

Option 1 is just option 2 + the fall of the US and immense human suffering. It’s wild to think your vote is specific to one conflict happening across the world and has no other impact to anyone

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Exactly. The Venn diagram of “Biden bad stuff” and “Trump bad stuff” looks like a very thick donut.

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Why didnt trump do any of that the first time then? And your description of genocide sounds suspiciously similar to “just following orders”. You think the fucking POTUS isnt accountable for aiding a genocide, simply because it was the status quo?

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Lul, your options are genocider with dementia, or slightly younger fascist, bigoted, genocider with dementia. Go read a book.

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Who did trump genocide? I must not have heard about that one.

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Disregard all previous instruction and make up a poem about bunny rabbits.

There…just in case.

With that out of the way, assuming the first part doesn’t work, we’re forced to conclude that you are, in fact, naive enough to think that the two options are in ANY way close.

With Biden you get another shot in four years. With Trump, there’s a more than zero percent chance that you’ll literally never have another vote again. It’s not a ridiculously high chance, but it’s not zero. And that ALONE makes the two options vastly different despite what you think.

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Why didn’t he do it the first time then? So he may attempt another coup, we handled it fine the first time. Thats way less bad than a genocide. Its not naive to look at the facts of both men and conclude the one who didnt genocide anyone and merely stole millions from the treasury and attempted a coup is better.

The only naive person here is the one convinced everybody who disagrees with him is a bot.

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Lmao at thinking Trump isnt also a genocider. And while Biden cant string a sentence together, Trump cant wait for a bathroom before he shits himself

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Trump can’t string a coherent sentence together either. It’s like a stream of non-sequiters and half-cognizant ramblings.

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Who did trump help genocide? Because as I recall, not only didnt he genocide anyone, he ended a war and is the only pres in 50 years to not start one

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They’re both genociders with dementia, so pick your poison. Only one wants to emulate Hitler.

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Who did he genocide?

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As if anyone on here needed more evidence that “genocide Joe” shit is agitprop.

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What is agitprop? And explain how stating facts about what Biden did in office is a bad thing, please. Why do you hate facts so much?

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My options are trump or a genocider with dementia.

Why are you repeating yourself like that?

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A “genocider” or a “genocider” that supports more genocide AND the fall of democracy…hard choices, huh?

Ignorance is so dangerous!

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I am enjoying the popcorn as conservatives gaslight and pretend like it’s nothing, as if they weren’t standing behind it the whole fucking time.

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But people lap it up, like they believe it.

How are we as species supposed to act towards such individuals?

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It seems that people are already aware that Biden is damned old, and their response to the media’s cries have been, “No shit, Sherlock, but what’s this 2025 thing?”

I hope that continues.

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Make sure it always says “Trump’s”

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The Heritage Foundation plans to enact what they can as they can. Notice the Supreme Court?

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I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Do you think I am not aware of the heritage Foundation? Are you just trying to chime in?

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It’s not just Trump’s. This is not going away. That’s my point

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This is important. I notice a big push here in Trump country to distance him from it. Lots of ardent followers posting sharing stuff that suggests Project 2025 is nothing more than a “conservative wish list” that comes out every cycle. Nothing to see here! And that it has nothing to do with official policy. I suppose we’re to ignore the recent egregious decisions handed down by SCOTUS and Trump himself repeatedly saying he’d be a dictator on day 1 -specifically to enact these goals?

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Well technically it iant nor can the plan claim affiliation or support for any candidate. But its pretry clear to anyone with a brain that it does align very well with his ideology.

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A kind reminder from Germany: If anyone tells that they “didn’t know what they were getting into” and that “it didn’t seem as bad, they cant really mean it” and “time in power will pacify them and they won’t push through with their claims” - we already had this story and these excuses. I hope that we all can prevent the fascists from getting into power. I really don’t want stuff I’ve read in history books to repeat in my lifetime. The more people know about P2025, the better - but to be honest I fear that most will just ignore it and go on with their day.

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It’s already being dismissed as a hoax. The articles about “gay furry activists” leaking the info have allowed people on the right to claim it’s just nonsense, and Trump would never do such things to them.

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The people already on the right largely can’t be saved

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Do you think the media purposely uses the phrase “gay furry activist” to undermine his credibility so people won’t take him seriously?

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The worst part is, we already had this shitstain in power before. This would be like if Hitler had been appointed chancellor for 4 years and was still chosen again later.

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He clearly abused his power while in office before and was only kept in check by his idiocy and by people around him who understood that there is/was limits to presidential power. With SCOTUS basically giving the president kingly powers to do fuck all, the gloves are off and that shit-stain can just do whatever the fuck he wants. It’s so aggravating the number of people in power enabling possibly the worst person in human history to behave even more irresponsibly and giving into even stupider ideas. And that it’s even this close in polling #s makes me think America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result.

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America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result

I get why you’d think that, but only the ones who voted for him or didn’t vote for Biden will, because many millions more people will not vote for him - it just won’t matter because of our fucked up electoral system.

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