121 points

Remember these same assholes that started this shit in the 90’s about the “Gay Agenda” converting all the children? According to that very same fear mongering, we’re all supposed to be gay by now, cuz that’s how that works…

permalink
report
reply
5 points

We would be if not for their efforts

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Oh?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

It couldn’t be that they were wrong right?

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

/s, hey, you dropped this

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I’d rather not ruin the joke by screaming “it’s a prank bro”

permalink
report
parent
reply
-40 points

From a purely numbers standpoint, aren’t they kind of fight?

Not many gay people were “out” in the 90s. Tons of gay people out today.

So from a recordable numbers standpoint, the number of known gay people HAS gone up drastically since then.

I think the bigger question to that fear mongering would be:

“Yeah? And?”

permalink
report
parent
reply
39 points
*

They’re not right because they numbers didn’t go up from conversion. They went up because people could admit who they are without fear of violence. The true number didn’t change, we just became capable of getting a more accurate count.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

Right, I think this is the point that the above comment is making as well. That the numbers of publicly/out gay people went up because of a more accurate count thanks to a less hostile sociopolitical climate.

I think the point that’s being confused in that comment is that the fear mongering was obviously bullshit, and modern bigots pointing at any increase in LGBTQ+ identification nowadays may continue to use those statistics as justification for anti-LGBTQ+ platforms. Instead of engaging that argument that the hate mongers have always known is in bad faith, it’s much more to the point nowadays to make them explain what they think is wrong with increased LQBTQ+ identification, or as the original comment put it, “Yeah, and?”

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Thats exactly what I just said though…

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

“We wouldn’t have so much Covid in America if we’d quit testing.”

Yeah, that tracks.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

All those people were always gay though. They’re just safe enough now to say it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

My god, the downvotes. Had the same thought. No one was out in the 80s and 90s, I was there. I can see idiots thinking people were converted, hence the rise in numbers.

I think the vast majority of people are saying, “Yeah? And?” People generally don’t give a shit any longer. Notice the conservatives aren’t banging the gay-hate drum and have pivoted to trans people?

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

TBF they are often caught banging the gays like drums…they needed a new enemy that they haven’t got caught banging repeatedly. So much self-loathing in that party.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

…you’re either an idiot, or trolling. Either way, you deserve the downvotes.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

How am I an idiot for saying that census data shows more people admitting to being gay, and it not being a problem?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

What numbers database are you referencing? Is there a GayTaBank somewhere that I need to know about?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I said it multiple times. The census. They know which areas have whom living where. They track all that. And they track when people move in or out, but not context as to why. So from their perspective there’s this sudden burst over 20 years of gay people popping up, not realizing they didn’t just pop up, or suddenly turn gay. They’ve always been there, just not recorded as such. So now they have to find ways to explain that. This coming from the same people who explain what happens on this planet as being done by an invisable man in the sky, who controls everything, has all knowledge of all things at all times, but somehow just can’t balance a budget He needs money. Always needs money. 10% of your income has to go to the sky man to pay for clouds or something. It’s never explained why these tax exempt churches need so much money.

…and these are the people explaining these shifts in numbers to roughly half the country. Now despite the fact that I would NOT say that half the country is homophobic, their leaders sure are! So even if they personally have nothing against gay people, their politicians used scare tactics for years trying to condition their base to be homophobic. The problem is, they aren’'t. At least not overwhelming majorities. So the gay people started coming out. But that goes against the leaders talking points. They couldn’t have been gay the whole time, because that would mean they were wrong. If they’re wrong, then they have no political power. And so now they have to explain the census data.

There’s tons of gay people, coast to coast, and there’s no appocolypse. There’s no great doom. Nothing happened. And that threatens their position.

permalink
report
parent
reply
79 points

If you think Trump’s Agenda 47 is scary, take a look at Trump’s Rule 34.

permalink
report
reply
11 points

If you think Trump’s Rule 34 is scary, take a look at Trump’s Order 66.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

I know what this is but I’m still kind of curious to look. But I’ll never unsee goatse or tub girl so I’ll refrain. There is only so much eyebleach.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Believe me, it exists.

A lot of it is Biden x Trump or Trump x Biden too.

permalink
report
parent
reply
57 points

Don’t worry, when people start catching up to this one, they will downplay it and start pushing Order 66.

I want off Mr Bone’s Wild Ride!

permalink
report
reply
11 points

Yes, you’d know this, too, if you’ve done any research on Rule 34.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

No, no, no. Just searching “rule 34” won’t give you any credible results, you have to include at least one politician’s name in the search.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Rule 34 is required to start the Lemon Party.

permalink
report
parent
reply
42 points

On schools:

Safe, Secure, and Drug-Free, by “immediate expulsion for any student who harms a teacher or another student.” This includes sending the “out-of-control troublemakers OUT of the classroom and INTO reform schools and corrections facilities,”

Yikes. Start rounding em up and locking them away, probably as free labor, while they’re young.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

There’s no need for the “probably”.

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

The plans include constructing “freedom cities” on empty federal land, investing in flying carmanufacturing, introducing baby bonuses to encourage a baby boom, implementing protectionisttrade policies, and over forty others. Seventeen of the policies that Trump says he will implement if elected would require congressional approval. Some of his plans are legally controversial, such as ending birthright citizenship, and may require amending the Constitution.

I’m not even shocked anymore. Flying cars?

permalink
report
reply
9 points
*

I used to chuckle about people pushing flying cars.

Aircraft typically use their main engines to push themselves around on the ground. It’s ridiculously inefficient. If you add an otherwise more efficient drivetrain that powers the wheels, that’s added weight, added complexity, and these hybrid trains usually suck at both jobs anyhow.

Further, flying will always be more fuel inefficient because in addition to moving, you’re spending some energy on staying in the air.

The best approach, if your rich enough to afford entertaining this notion, is just to have 2 vehicles, one a car designed to do car-things and the other an aircraft (probably a far 103 compliant ultralight.)

And if you are rich enough, please please get any of the large number of quad-rotor designs that are coming out- and right me in the will. (For some reason they forgot that bird strikes shatter rotors and the disc planes are literally at neck height. Just saying. Cf this one)(also, just for the record my 150 rc helis have enough energy to decapitate you in the rotors if you disrespect it. These, when they shatter, are basically thrown straight out and are flying daggers.)

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

They don’t mean flying cars that can drive arming, they really mean safer helicopter/air taxis (so quad+ copters). A bunch of tech billionaires are likely behind that inclusion, because they want to be the next air Uber, and it might actually be easier to automate than cars on the road.

I’d still a fucking terrible, noisy, dangerous, and inefficient way to do it though. Mass transit to airports, or high speed rail between more cities, is a much better investment, but can’t be as easily exploited by the tech bros.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

they really mean safer helicopter/air taxis (so quad+ copters). A bunch of tech billionaires are likely behind that inclusion, because they want to be the next air Uber, and it might actually be easier to automate than cars on the road.

no. it won’t be safer.

not once you have to start dealing with air congestion. access to landing locations, Routing. seeing obstructions and maintaining safe flying patterns. basically all the shit you see cars doing now? like running kids over, hitting boulders? when you’re flying… everything happens faster. when you’re flying between tall buildings a hundred feet from the ground; you have half a second to regain control of that aircraft before you smash into a building. There is a reason that helicopter flights over most metropolises are extremely restricted. and AI piloting is going to be just as geographically dumb as self driving cars are- and for aircraft that could be a death sentence for hundreds of people if, for example, they wander into tower-controlled space, or congested airspace on approach to an airport.

by the way “flying car” almost always has meant something that can do both. probably the least ridiculous was the aero car form the 50’s. or from the 40’s there’s the ConVair model 118 ConVairCar which was a massive flop because it’s roof mounted engine drove the wheels on the ground.

it’s only a recent trend where …I like to call them idiots… like Musk…have begun referring to Personal Air Vehicles as ‘flying cars’, and that’s probably to evoke the idea that they could be super common. (nope. they’ll never replace normal cars. Tons of gas is ‘wasted’ in traffic each year, sure. But aircraft will always be less effecient than a car. which is less efficient than a railroad.) which is kinda the same idea of calling them ‘flying cars’ back then… too… listen to to the Airphibian advertisment. This one was somewhat more reasonable… the idea being you convert into a car by removing the propeller hub and tail/wing section after flying into hangarage.

Also, most of the newer things are more or less based off of Moller’s Skycar 400. advances in motor/jet engine technolgy has made it somewhat more reasonable… though, my personal favorite is the Hiller V1 pawnee- which technically it was a ground effect system, but it had the distinct advantage of being intuitive to operate on a level none of the others were. if you can balance on two feet you could safely operate it.

an honorable mention is the Avrocar, which was meant as a close-support vehicle for the army. if you look up the skirts of a hovercraft, you’ll see an avrocar. (it’s problem was that it was horribly unstable, especially outside of ground effect. Slap on a skirt, though, and it operates beautifully.)

Oh. an then there’s the Malloy hoverbikes. all I’m gonna say on that one is that New Zealand engineers are an entirely unique breed.

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 11K

    Posts

  • 189K

    Comments