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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Here’s a summary: Not only did Trump repeatedly lie, but he also delivered nonsensical responses and non-answers lacking any insight into his policy plans.

For example, when moderator Jake Tapper asked what he would do to make child care more affordable, the presumptive GOP nominee initially dodged the question.

Later, when Trump was given an opportunity at the debate to address voter concerns over his mental fitness, the 77-year-old offered two points to alleviate the public’s fears.

Also of concern on the debate stage, Trump didn’t commit to unconditionally accepting the election results and underscored his intentions to seek political retribution.

Commentator Kaivan Shroff remarked that the media has chosen to “ignore Trump being a convicted felon, racist, nutjob, etc” while journalist Sophia Nelson said on CNN that she believed it’s fair to question Biden after his performance, but warned of the “pile-on” against him.

“It’s frankly astonishing that we have no less than eight op-ed pieces calling for Biden to drop out after a bad debate, but we had zero after any one of Trump’s convictions,” journalist Victoria Brownworth wrote.


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69 points

Because literally nobody is suprised by trump as this point. We all know what he is at this point. Biden popped the fascade that has been carefully crafted to keep us all thinking he was doing alright despite being old as fuck.

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27 points

100%. People want to act like it was a “bad debate performance” but it was absolutely eye opening to the american people. Its not about who won or lost a debate.

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And it’s not like it’s the first of those incidents. He fell off his bike, tripped getting on air force one, had a bunch of press conferences where he did the trailing off in the middle of his answer thing, etc.

And this isn’t the only person democrats did this with either. They enabled Dianne Feinstein to run for reelection despite her being at deaths door, there’s the RBG debacle, etc.

Democrats need to get better at refreshing the old guard. The only one that did it kind of right is Nancy Pelosi: groom a successor and step aside when the time is right.

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I love the argument about the bike, have you seen trump on a bike? There’s a 99% chance that you don’t ride a bike yourself.

BTW: he tripped, because he had to stop to talk with reporters and the predators had straps. It even happened to me and I’m much much younger than him.

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4 points

Democrats are so ego driven that they think death itself cannot claim them at a moment’s notice. I think this is part of the facade of the Democrats people are, unfortunately, going to respond to this election: Democrats, as a party, like to present themselves as being all about compromise and caring. Getting things done for the #AmericanPeople. But when it’s time to step down and let others shine in the limelight because you’ve had your time and the physical realities of age are something you have to acknowledge, or when there might be a better candidate for an election and you have to make the difficult choice of not getting what you want for the good of the country, that fucking sentiment disappears like a fart in the wind.

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8 points

How many people who previously hadn’t been paying attention to the race tuned in and saw the same deterioration they’ve watched in their own parents and grandparents?

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Well the facade was bound to pop eventually, it was just easy to keep when you have done 100 less press events than literally any president in the last 4 decades.

He’s been really really just hidden away and relying on good press to do all the talking for him and that’s now gone for sure.

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171 points

Because nothing about Trump has changed.

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46 points

Yea. I’m not from the US (so an outsider’s and probably naive perspective) …

but the whole Biden thing seems off. Trump is a known quantity. The point of his running, at a basic level and besides vengeance, is to try the MAGA thing again without COVID “interfering”. Also, if you think back to the 2020 Dem primaries, where no one was really happy with any candidate and many were asking of the Dems “is that the best you’ve got” … a Trump sequel is kinda republicans forcing that question again.

As for all of the attention … well there’s a lot on the line here: Trump’s a known quantity … so, Dems, how you going to defeat him this time? Because … if you lose to Trump, twice, both times by standing by a party elder … that’s maybe “shame on you”. Moreover, we all knew Biden was old. A single term was sorta, kinda part of the deal because of that (remember, he wasn’t doing well in the primaries, he never has really). So, has a bargain been broken here? A gamble lost? A mistake, perhaps all the way back in 2020 but certainly behind the decision to run again, come to fruition?

Beyond all of that … I thought excessive media attention on Trump and the free publicity he gets was a bad thing (he’s probably jealous about Biden’s media attention lol)?

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19 points

I agree, and all this happened when Epstein files were unsealed. Why there’s no talk about that?

I think Biden promising to increase taxes for the rich doesn’t bode well with the rich, because Biden might actually do it.

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13 points

Ding ding ding! Biden is a threat to the wealthy so the smear campaign is rich capitalists trying to replace Biden with someone they like more, or get tRump back in so they can get tax breaks. They care not for the dangers of fascism cause they’ll still make profit, but with fewer regulations and faster.

Also, probably many of those implicated in the Epstein files are extremely wealthy and don’t want that info taking center stage at anytime. The wealthy like to see those bank account zeroes increase! Soon as you threaten that, they try to jail, replace, or “remove” them using their near infinite means. The same ones named in those files likely also own local news groups and can influence local and/or regional news.

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And it has nothing to do with one of the worst debate performances in history? Really?

People were already hesitant about Biden before this debate. His performance was a wake up call. And nothing that has been done since has made him look any better.

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he wasn’t doing well in the primaries, he never has really

Biden did quit well in the primaries. Also, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and the orange felon did bad on their first debates. In fact Obama did horrible. They all went on to win. Biden has the keys to win this. Switching candidates now will throw the election away. Biden has surrounded himself with good people, he has wisdom and experience. He averted a recession and the economy is rebounding impressively. Why throw that all away?
Allan Lichtman, a historian who has successfully predicted the outcome of the last 10 presidential elections, dismissed the calls to boot Biden from the ballot, telling CNN’s Abby Phillip it would be a “huge mistake” to replace Biden on the ballot. , “Republicans have no principles. Democrats have no spine". The story behind Professor Allan Lichtman’s methodology based on earth quake prediction absolutely is fascinating.

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Biden did quit well in the primaries.

With a little help from strategically timed withdrawals and Jim Clyburn, sure.

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10 points

It actually did. It wasn’t just lies, but he is also losing plot about what he is talking about.

But yeah, I guess that’s not much difference in the greater scheme of things.

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17 points

More importantly, there’s nothing you can do to convince someone who’s dumb enough to vote for Trump, not to. This is why chasing “swing” voters is a really terrible strategy and always has been. There’s literally nothing Trump could say or do to alienate the voters he has now, no one is undecided on Trump.

What determines the outcome for Democrats is the same it’s ever been; turn out. It’s why Biden won in 2020, it’s why the GOP is constantly trying to sabotage and suppress voter registration. And it’s why it’s critical that Biden steps down, he simply cannot drive the needed turn out now and is unwilling to form a coalition with non-conservative democrats/independents.

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And “tongue tied” Is a straight up, fucking lie. It was surprising just how bad Biden was in that debate. You are right that trump seems to be consistently shity and incomprehensible.

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17 points

Billionaires own all the news outlets

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Yeah, this does feel a bit astroturfed, I think they don’t like his promises of increasing taxes on rich and strengthening protections for workers.

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3 points

And exposure from the Epstein Files being unsealed.

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Don’t forget thats how we got Joe in the first place, lost all the first dem primaries in 2020, while the media kept saying don’t count him out because reasons, while literally hiding wins by Bernie and other dems. I wonder where all these people come from that think a confirmed liar Source and has been in politics so long he supported and advocated for segregation Source that raised $127 million just last month Source is somehow being targeted by corporate interests and needs to be protected?

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I thought Biden was sick, or was it tired? Now it’s tongue tied? The DNC is literally handing Trump the WH by refusing to acknowledge they are propping up a vegetable

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While I could see the wisdom in not propping up a vegetable, I’m not sure acknowledging that they are propping up a vegetable is any more of a “winning strategy”.

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They need to count their losses while they still have time.

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7 points

TIL you can only be one at a time.

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-6 points

Not when the story keeps changing

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Orrrrr yes tired and a cold, that’s not a ludicrous combination lol. And he’s always had a stutter, which yes can come out in many ways.

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