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171 points

Because nothing about Trump has changed.

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Yea. I’m not from the US (so an outsider’s and probably naive perspective) …

but the whole Biden thing seems off. Trump is a known quantity. The point of his running, at a basic level and besides vengeance, is to try the MAGA thing again without COVID “interfering”. Also, if you think back to the 2020 Dem primaries, where no one was really happy with any candidate and many were asking of the Dems “is that the best you’ve got” … a Trump sequel is kinda republicans forcing that question again.

As for all of the attention … well there’s a lot on the line here: Trump’s a known quantity … so, Dems, how you going to defeat him this time? Because … if you lose to Trump, twice, both times by standing by a party elder … that’s maybe “shame on you”. Moreover, we all knew Biden was old. A single term was sorta, kinda part of the deal because of that (remember, he wasn’t doing well in the primaries, he never has really). So, has a bargain been broken here? A gamble lost? A mistake, perhaps all the way back in 2020 but certainly behind the decision to run again, come to fruition?

Beyond all of that … I thought excessive media attention on Trump and the free publicity he gets was a bad thing (he’s probably jealous about Biden’s media attention lol)?

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I agree, and all this happened when Epstein files were unsealed. Why there’s no talk about that?

I think Biden promising to increase taxes for the rich doesn’t bode well with the rich, because Biden might actually do it.

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Ding ding ding! Biden is a threat to the wealthy so the smear campaign is rich capitalists trying to replace Biden with someone they like more, or get tRump back in so they can get tax breaks. They care not for the dangers of fascism cause they’ll still make profit, but with fewer regulations and faster.

Also, probably many of those implicated in the Epstein files are extremely wealthy and don’t want that info taking center stage at anytime. The wealthy like to see those bank account zeroes increase! Soon as you threaten that, they try to jail, replace, or “remove” them using their near infinite means. The same ones named in those files likely also own local news groups and can influence local and/or regional news.

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And it has nothing to do with one of the worst debate performances in history? Really?

People were already hesitant about Biden before this debate. His performance was a wake up call. And nothing that has been done since has made him look any better.

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he wasn’t doing well in the primaries, he never has really

Biden did quit well in the primaries. Also, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and the orange felon did bad on their first debates. In fact Obama did horrible. They all went on to win. Biden has the keys to win this. Switching candidates now will throw the election away. Biden has surrounded himself with good people, he has wisdom and experience. He averted a recession and the economy is rebounding impressively. Why throw that all away?
Allan Lichtman, a historian who has successfully predicted the outcome of the last 10 presidential elections, dismissed the calls to boot Biden from the ballot, telling CNN’s Abby Phillip it would be a “huge mistake” to replace Biden on the ballot. , “Republicans have no principles. Democrats have no spine". The story behind Professor Allan Lichtman’s methodology based on earth quake prediction absolutely is fascinating.

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Biden did quit well in the primaries.

With a little help from strategically timed withdrawals and Jim Clyburn, sure.

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More importantly, there’s nothing you can do to convince someone who’s dumb enough to vote for Trump, not to. This is why chasing “swing” voters is a really terrible strategy and always has been. There’s literally nothing Trump could say or do to alienate the voters he has now, no one is undecided on Trump.

What determines the outcome for Democrats is the same it’s ever been; turn out. It’s why Biden won in 2020, it’s why the GOP is constantly trying to sabotage and suppress voter registration. And it’s why it’s critical that Biden steps down, he simply cannot drive the needed turn out now and is unwilling to form a coalition with non-conservative democrats/independents.

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It actually did. It wasn’t just lies, but he is also losing plot about what he is talking about.

But yeah, I guess that’s not much difference in the greater scheme of things.

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And “tongue tied” Is a straight up, fucking lie. It was surprising just how bad Biden was in that debate. You are right that trump seems to be consistently shity and incomprehensible.

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