Previously the reporting on this did not have a political angle and so it was removed from Politics and correctly directed to News.

The charges related to terrorism now give this a political angle.

“Luigi Mangione is accused of first-degree murder, in furtherance of terrorism; second-degree murder, one count of which is charged as killing as an act of terrorism; criminal possession of a weapon and other crimes.”

The terrorism statutes can be found here:

https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/ny-penal-law-490-25-crime-of-terrorism.html

“The act must be committed with the intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.”

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Storming the capital or shooting dozens of children are not terrorism, but shooting a CEO who murders thousands is. Got it.

They’re clearly trying to send a message to scare his supporters

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They’re clearly trying to send a message to scare his supporters

Yes, they are. By charging him as a terrorist, they are saying that anyone who supports him is supporting terrorism. I’m sure that someone somewhere is making very long lists of names of social media posters and people who donated to his legal defense.

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New York law vs. Federal Law. ;)

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Without a doubt, “;)” is the most passive aggressive emoticon in the history of the written language.

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What’s the most directly aggressive one?

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Self defence, not guilty

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Justifiable homicide.

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Nah. I have an out. Insurance CEOs simply aren’t human. The charge should be animal cruelty at the worst. Luigi should get the same criminal penalty as someone would get for stepping on a cockroach. Murder requires the thing you’re destroying to actually be a human being.

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That reminds me that you should never make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison

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Nullify the jury. A man can break the letter and spirit of the law if the jury decides he should not be punished for it.

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Whatever. United Healthcare should be next for the countless murders they’ve done.

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We don’t put corporations on trial in America, silly billy

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“The act must be committed with the intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.”

These CEOs are quite literally trying to kill us for profit. This is class warfare, and they are the aggressor. They are not civilians, and the terror is not directed at the population or the government.

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In fairness, I think you could argue the second half. But I would have to read the manifesto to see if he actualy intended that, or if it is just the rest of us who wish he had…

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I tend to agree with that, the intent isn’t to make the general public afraid, it’s to coerce them into taking action.

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So the jury has their out now, jury nullification on the grounds of the act not being terrorism

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nope. not that one.

there’s two charges, only one with ‘terrorism’ attached.

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Are insurance CEOs really human? Is it even possible to commit murder against one? I think it would be more like killing a flesh-eating parasite. I’m thinking the charge should be animal cruelty at the worst. What kind of criminal penalty would I get if I threw an ant farm in a lake? That’s the kind of punishment Luigi should get.

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No. This is us.

This is what we are.

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Yo, he’s a piece of shit human that didn’t deserve to play Minecraft. Making him less than human could justify targeting his children or the terrorism charges. This the CEO knew what he was doing was bad for people because he was a human.

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1st & 2nd degree both have the terrorism angle attached.

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Jury nullification does not require “grounds”. Jury nullification is a result of the jury’s verdict being final regardless of the details of the trial. It’s also an effect of the fact that you cannot be tried twice for the same crime. The jury is not required to form a verdict strictly on the basis of the trial. The may find the defendant not guilty regardless of actual guilt.

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Yeah I’m pretty sure they’ll somehow end up with a jury comprised entirely of CEO’s or their immediate family, “randomly” selected of course

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