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Keiko needs to be careful what she wishes for.

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Excellent out of context quote from that episode:

Keiko: “I am your wife”.

Miles: “But you’re also twelve years old”.

Something like that.

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“Sir, a Mister Hanson is requesting to beam aboard.”

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This happens in the episode where everyone prematurely ages, and they are sent through the transporter to make them their “normal” ages. There’s no reason given why they couldn’t do that all the time.

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Even more relevant there was that episode where a transporter accident turns Picard, Guinan, Ro and Kiko into twelve year olds and nobody points out they just discovered transporter induced immortality.

What really gets me about that episode is all of the effected characters immediately want to return to their normal age and nobody says “Hold up, I’m very okay with a couple extra decades of life” or centuries in Guinans case I suppose.

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They also forgot about the fact that Barclay was aware during transport meaning that somehow your physical body exists while you’re being transported.

Really, the transporters work by power of plot.

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Especially Picard who, you know, has the health thing that accelerates with age or whatever

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Let’s not even address the fact that transporter enyouthened Picard would presumably still have his cybernetic heart. Was it an adult-sized cyberheart in his kid-sized chest cavity? Did the transporter know how to resize the prosthesis to fit his changed body? So many questions!

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But wouldn’t that also erase your memories?

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If they can selectively remove pathogens during transport, I see no reason they couldn’t selectively choose which parts of things to revert to a younger state and what to leave as is for things like memory preservation.

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I’m already leaning towards transporters “actually kill you and clone you” and the extent to which they can manipulate the “you” that comes out is making me lean even harder lol

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“Hey Scotty, when you beam me back up, can you give me a huge rodney?”

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(Hope that sounds convincing, cause hell if I know)

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I don’t know about you, but O’Brien would certainly know.

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Of course he does. He just doesn’t want her knowing.

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Huh. A lot of the Keiko/ O’Brien squabble episodes of DS9 are going to be easier to watch, with that idea in place. He’s not divorcing or fixing his marriage, because he can simply outlive her and do better next time.

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That’s kind of the premise of the John Scalzi book “Old Man’s War”. In the book, they take elderly people (aka Wise people), and put their minds/memories into young fit bodies. This, in theory, creates soldiers who are both Wise, and Young/Fit.

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Thanks for the new reading suggestion!

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John Scalzi is an amazing author. You’ll love it. Another good one by him is The Dispatcher. There’s even an audiobook of this narrated by Zachary Quinto

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I assume there’s some in universe reason why they can’t / don’t keep copies of the teleportation data, otherwise everyone would be effectively indestructible

“Oh no the captain got eaten by a space tiger”

“No problem, I’ll teleport a backup from an hour ago, he’ll be there in 5 minutes”

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My first thought was wouldn’t that reset our memories to that point too?

Granted losing some memories or being dead is a pretty easy choice, but using it to reverse aging or other physical things would be a costly one

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Would YOU lose “some memory”, or would you be destroyed and the transporter would recreate a person who believes to be you from a previous point in time?

And how do we know that isn’t what happens every single time someone is beamed somewhere?

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Calm down Theseus

But yes, I’m on the “it’s essentially a clone” and the original is killed side of that argument, so it would just be a copy of you that believes they lost time somehow until someone told them what happened

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If you’d start this game, it’s hard to end it. Immortality, swarms of clones created just for labor, identity steal, and worse of all – people would grow negligent and the series would lose any stakes.

I think that at some point everyone agreed that the cycle of life is a core of what makes us humanoids and pushes us to strive for self-improvement.

It also prevents societal degradation, because immortality goes hand in hand with tyranny and lack of meaningful natural change.

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the series would lose any stakes.

That’s the only real reason

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