141 points

Think the CEO of Costco did a similar move with the hot dogs

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62 points

Costco also puts a maximum percent profit on items.

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24 points

Really? That’s awesome.

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9 points

Apparently they make more money from memberships than from sales margins, which are capped.

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3 points

Does anyone have a source for this?

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5 points

Last I heard, their profits were nearly entirely from memberships. This was probably five years ago though. I don’t know if their numbers have changed since.

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51 points

Also. I believe, he also said , if the workers think they need a union, we’ve failed as managers.

So. Yeah

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43 points

I mean, it’s an understandable viewpoint.

It’s when union busting tactics are being brought in that things are problematic.

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3 points

That’s because you view it entirely positively, instead of from the angle that he doesn’t want them to even know of the possibility.

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18 points

I wish more companies had this mindset. If you treat your employees well and listen to their needs, they won’t need to unionize. When they do unionize, it means they don’t feel that they have been treated well and listened to.

It seems that the end result of this philosophy would be to treat your employees well!

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3 points

its an interesting difference in perspective for sure. here you join as a matter of course because you can push back against changes that are bad.

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14 points

If you have an employer that does the right thing, you should have a union that doesn’t need to do much. But you should still unionise, because it’s niave to think the company will always continue to behave that way. If anything, they naturally drift away from that state and it’s only a matter of time until it changes. The union is about having a level playing field with the company when you need it.

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Unionize it’s not only about raising your working conditions. It’s about helping other to raise theirs. If you have better conditions you can tell other business owners that what the Union is asking, you already have it. One less point where they can grab themselves.

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3 points

To be fair, he’s not really wrong, meaning that they’ve failed to take good enough care of their people, and my understanding is he didn’t stand in the way of one forming…

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214 points

Close. The founder told the CEO if he raised the price on the hotdog “I will fucking kill you”.

So, who really gets the credit here is up to you.

The person who threatened to kill the CEO if the CEO fucked his customers, or the CEO who didn’t fuck his customers out of self-preservation?

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53 points

What if the killer was the Costco founder? He told the United Healthcare CEO the same thing and then followed through.

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87 points

They also bought 2 hotdog factories to minimize the loss.

Costco does pay decent as well.

Could they do better? Yes, but they are pretty decent for employees and consumers.

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-37 points

Oh come on, don’t be naïve. They bought two factories so they could switch from “hot dogs” to “mechanically-recovered animal-based byproducts” let’s be realistic

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6 points

So what your saying is, Costco’s founder and the shooter have a similar energy?

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32 points

“I came to [Sinegal] once and I said, ‘Jim, we can’t sell this hot dog for a buck fifty. We are losing our rear ends,’” Jelinek recalled in a 2018 interview with 425 Business. “And he said, ‘If you raise the effing hot dog, I will kill you. Figure it out.’”

https://thehill.com/homenews/4696314-costcos-new-cfo-makes-announcement-about-1-50-hot-dog-combo/#:~:text=We are losing our rear ends%2C’%E2%80%9D%20Jelinek,effing%20hot%20dog%2C%20I%20will%20kill%20you.

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1 point

Out of curiosity, how is it legal for Sinegal to say that to Jelinek? Or it isn’t but no one cares to press charges?

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9 points

I’m sure the guy can tell the difference between a genuine threat and a hyperbole.

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3 points

Prob same reason you can say “choke me daddy” ‘OK’ in bed

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113 points

GabeN has been pretty cool.

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33 points

Gabe has 6 yachts worth about $1 billion dollars. Not very cool at all, imho.

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104 points

He didn’t kill anyone by denying them insurance or anything like that tho. Just took a commission on every game sold on Steam, a platform nobody’s forced to use.

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115 points

And by running a casino that rakes in millions of dollars off kids. I can appreciate the positives he’s done with Steam, but I’m not about to ignore the negatives.

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Being a bit greedy =/= Killing millions of people through death panels

Huge difference

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40 points

Nobody becomes a billionaire by being “a bit greedy”

One billion dollars is an insane amount of money.

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6 points

When did I compare those two things as being equally as bad? What the hell is with this black and white stance in my replies, absolutely wild to see people defending a man owning 1 billion dollars in yachts.

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6 points

Isn’t the Steam business model to charge less than everyone else though?

That seems like the exact opposite of greedy.

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23 points

Im a huge steam fan.

I am not a fan of someone who can own multiple yachts.

Sorry GabeN.

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8 points

Still seems like a nice guy. 🫡

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-31 points

He’s not a CEO any more, but Bill Gates is on a mission to die a mere millionaire, and I think has already given away more than half his net worth.

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100 points

Bill Gates is a massive piece of shit. Don’t let all the propaganda he puts out there fool you. When you start looking closer at his so-called charity work it’s not nearly as pretty as you might think.

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29 points

I personally prefer all billionaires follow his path.

I’ve looked at his charities too over the last few years and didn’t see anything that was questionable.

Anything you want to call out?

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9 points

Bill Gates fucked the public school systems pretty hard.

Something I think is extremely fucked up in general is that if you have millions to throw at a pet cause, you will disproportionately benefit your cause over other causes in a non-democratic manner. That means that every individual and organization involved in fields related to your pet projects are incentivized to focus on your pet projects over others. Because you have so much money, you basically individually shape public policy.

Look at the WHO (source):

…over 80 per cent of WHO’s funding relies on “voluntary contributions,” meaning any amount of money given freely by donors, whether member states, NGOs, philanthropic organisations or other private entities.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation alone is responsible for over 88 per cent of the total amount donated by philanthropic foundations to the WHO. Other contributors include the Bloomberg Family Foundation (3.5 per cent), the Wellcome Trust (1.1 per cent) and the Rockefeller Foundation (0.8 per cent).

So yeah, it’s great that they donate so much… but that also means they can stop donating… so they have control.

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28 points

Could you be a little bit more specific with your criticisms of his charity?

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10 points

He basically gave $54BN to the “Gates and Melinda Charity”.

Guess who controls the charity?

Guess if the “Charity” pays taxes?

It’s crazy how fast people simp for billionaires, old evil shitty hated-by-all billionaires too, just because they spend some publicities around.

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15 points

Yeah let’s hear it. Please elaborate on your accusations and don’t be so vague.

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8 points

[citation needed]

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14 points

Some of that propaganda is in the form of material help to people around the world. Like sure, he’s not great, no question. But if every other CEO funded global healthcare to the extent he did to whitewash their own problems, I wouldn’t complain. Sure his charity work is by no means ideal, but even the ugly charity he does actually winds up saving lives.

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2 points

The question was “are there any CEOs we should save” and the answer is still “not Bill Gates” in this context.

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At least he helped more people than you. So where does that put YOU?

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4 points

In camp “BG still has 4240000x times more money than me”.

Not to mention he executed the “trolley problem meme” by killing a million to save a million. Now, he did not literally kill people (unlike some other CEOs I’ve heard about), but he did fuck over a ton of people, all in the name of “Business” (which is PR/propaganda for “greed”).

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8 points

False equivalence

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3 points

He’s also harmed far more people than me, and the negative positive aspect is still net negative.

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17 points

He was kind of a prick becoming a billionaire, so his is more of a redemption arc than a hero’s journey.

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1 point

Possibly, but still better than most.

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1 point

Sure. I support him becoming a better person, or at least acting like it for the publicity, as long as we all understand what’s going on.

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31 points

Watching people totally fall for Gates’s incredibly shallow face value self image propaganda bullshit is wild to me. FUCK that guy, so hard. One of the biggest reasons we have enshittification today is this one man.

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incredibly shallow face value self image propaganda bullshit is wild to me.

He’s given away billions of dollars, and that’s face value to you? Besides, he hasn’t been in control at Microsoft for decades at this point.

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We wouldn’t need him to make these donations if he actually paid his fucking taxes is the thing though. And it’s significantly less.

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Also I don’t understand how you can defend a man who convinced a bunch of people to not give away the COVID vaccines for free. This is not the actions of a humanitarian. It’s the actions of a monster.

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2 points

and that’s face value to you?

It is face value. How did he gain those billion? “Embrace, extend, and extinguish”. Never forget.

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13 points

My boss checks in on me occasionally with directness, and did so the other day:

“viva, how’s it going?”
“I want to fight Bill Gates.”

This is understood to mean, “windows is fucked. My computer is fucked. All of this massive, utterly brutal buttfucking inconvenience could have been avoided at some point, and now isn’t, because [our company] bought so hard into Microsoft’s “business solutions” that there’s no turning back, and because of the nuances of the problems you’ve asked me to solve, I am facing said brutal buttfucking inconvenience, and I’m mad about it.”

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Apologies for detailing the conversation, but I have noticed the implementation and configuration of MS products (something MS has no control over) really impacts their usability. For example, I worked at a soulless corporation that managed to set up PBI and ADO so there was no live feed of data (and they only allowed for the web version of PBI, which reduces functionality substantially). They were also so far behind on Office versions that the employees didn’t know more than one person could update a file at a time. There are all sorts of very real reasons to dislike MS, but I do wonder how many people dislike them because of a stupid configuration.

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10 points

Yeah how dare he run a tax scheme by

*checks notes

Saving millions of people across all of Africa by providing free healthcare for treatable diseases and potential pandemics?

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I’ve noticed that some people really don’t like Africans. I believe there’s even a word for such behaviour, don’t remember which one right now though…

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Bill Gates’ net worth has grown substantially despite his philanthropy, rising from $126.8 billion in early 2023 to $156 billion in December 2024.

Regarding COVID-19 vaccines, Gates actively opposed patent waivers and influenced Oxford University to privatize its vaccine through AstraZeneca rather than keep it open-source. He pushed for maintaining intellectual property rights through COVAX, despite public funding supporting vaccine development.

Not a good guy by any metric.

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10 points

Thats a good criticism but the CEO he put in charge of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation went against him and supported waiving the patents anyways, which Biden and the WTO went ahead and did regardless.

His argument against the TRIPS terms was that it wouldn’t actually increase production, that every facility capable of producing vaccines was doing so regardless of the patent’s costs especially given that they only had to worry about intellectual properties when importing to countries where the patent is held.

He was wrong, I give you that, I think there is no room to be penny pinching and arguing when even 1 more vaccine could have saved lives. However, that doesn’t even come close to offsetting the number of lives he has saved or improved by handing out vaccines and medicines for free across Africa. The vast majority of Gates’ opponents are generally not fond of Dark Skinned people.

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-50 points

BofA is totally worth keeping around

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87 points

Bofa deez nuts maybe, but the Bank of America can fuck all the way off

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13 points

This is the best possible answer.

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30 points

Terrible bank, like most that aren’t credit unions, they have over leveraged tens of billions against individual account balances and been a leaky sieve in tech security.

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I have no idea why most people don’t use credit unions. I guess just ignorance. My “overdraft fee” is “keep at least $50 in your savings account and we won’t charge you one.”

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1 point

Convenience. I have accounts with BofA because they’re three blocks from my house. It’s them or Wells Fargo, who are a little further, and then the nearest credit union is a 10m drive. So convenience. I also have USAA, but having zero branches in my state is kind of a pain.

I hate BofA, but I opened my first credit card with them 19 years ago and I value my stupid credit score for some reason, and so I have to keep it forever.

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Your overdraft policy is don’t overdraft or you’ll be charged a fee — so there’s an overdraft fee?

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27 points

All of them

at minimum wage

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Make their pay and benefits the same as the lowest paying position in the entire company.

Simple and effective

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7 points

I always forget that in America minimum wage is just a suggestion

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4 points

That’s a weird take. Why don’t you explain in specifics.

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