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But does your medical clinic do?

No, they don’t, and it pisses me off. Every time I see it, I think, Well, there goes my medical privacy.

But where else can I go? There’s only one health company in town, and they bought all the doctor’s offices.

Who can I complain to? The doctors and nurses are visibly frustrated with Windows every time I see them use it. If they can’t change it, how could I?

They might not know there are alternatives. So they likely do not ccomplain to their IT person.

Dont be a “jUsT uSe LiNuX” guy, but when you see them frustrated maybe say “hey I see you are frustrated as well and I as a patient are concerned about my medical data privacy. You know there are better and safer alternatives, maybe you could ask your IT if it would be possible to switch to Linux?”

Realistically, they can’t switch because the software to use some $€1m medical device only runs on windows.

I’ve had the se thought as expressed in the last paragraph the other day and isn’t the anwser in compatibility layer? Like can’t they install and run windows medical software using WINE?

Having worked in healthcare IT. Adding more complexity will only make things harder for them. A lot of healthcare staff can barely operate the Windows PCs and applications they’re used to. Change anything and they act like the sky is falling.

That opens up a legal liability for the people creating the compatibility layer. You’ve gone from two points of failure (the doctor and the machine) to three.

For sure it can be done but most people / companies won’t want to take on that liability.

That ship has sailed anyway. I’ve had no less than 5 breach notifications show up in the mail from things related to my health care in the last 2 years, and it’s not like I’m constantly at the doctor. The whole system is a disaster.

I sell encryption. Send me the lead dog ;p

I work in IT for healthcare, and our CTO, CIO, and head of Cybersecurity are all ex-Microsoft. We’re a “Windows Shop” adopting anything Microsoft has ever made, from Windows to Azure DevOps to Access

Don’t forget with the Recall feature, you may be on Linux and are using a secure communication application, but if who you are talking to is on windows your conversation can be scraped.

Same thing with email. It’s all well and good if you’re using ProtonMail or Tuta or Posteo, but you’re still cooked if the other side is using Gmail.

Old problems, new modi operandi.

Afaik, with proton you can send messages that won’t open through gmail if you protect them with a password. The other person receives a message with a link to open the mail in a browser after entering the password. It’s not the easiest solution but if you want to avoid gmail from knowing the contents of a message, you can do that.

But windows recall scrapes your screen, so even that wouldn’t work.

You can send self destructing messages with Protonmail

Do Proton remotely erase the message on the recipient’s email server? Even if it’s not a protonmail server?

Good morning, Mr. Phelps.

It’s not like companies that use Linux don’t get breached either. Your personal data is in thousands of databases that have varying levels of security. Personal choices don’t affect any of that, regulations like GDPR are what’s needed.

GDPR has much the same problem: it can only actually be enforced against entities with a presence in Europe. When Europeans do international business, the GDPR only protects them if that foreign site has a business presence within Europe. When they have no bank accounts or business assets inside the EU, they are not subject to the GDPR.

Even though the GDPR covers your side, it doesn’t always cover the other side.

That’s why I said “regulations like the GDPR”. The US and other blocs need similar regulations. Especially the US is important, as they’ve shown that they’re willing to stretch the size of their jurisdiction to sometimes absurd lengths.

That’s usually a bad thing, but in this case that might be good.

getting breached is different from using spyware.

this goes for pretty much every single chat app out there. most of the popular ones are proprietary and go through private servers.

privacy is important kids.

So it’s not enough to brag about being on Linux ourselves, we should be encouraging our friends to switch to Linux as well?

How’s this different from someone just record your call? The thing you are worrying about has been possible long before Recall is a thing.

I think people who say “I don’t care, I use Linux” are really saying “You should use Linux to stop this.”

I hate to be that guy, but they may not be aware of alternatives.

Im sure the receptionist in the doctors surgery cant wait to have that conversation.

Yes. And whereas if you say “You should use linux” might get you downvoted and angry responsens, just saying “I use linux” does not.
But with enough repetition the people who care enough might eventually give Linux a try on their own time.

Yeah but that misses the point.

Others SHOULD use Linux. We’ve been saying that for decades now and slooooowly people are learning. Stop down voting people for saying what everyone should be listening yo

Demanding more regulation isn’t going to solve this problem. Demanding that your therapist and family members abide by some sort of “regulation” just ensures that will only use software that is formally “certified” to meet the regulator’s standards.

Microsoft has the lawyers and marketers to ensure that they can meet any regulation the government wants to throw at them.

Linux just solves it and distributes the solution, fast and free, to anyone who wants it. Nobody has time for regulators, so even though it is more broadly scrutinized and more secure than anything Microsoft will put out, it never gets “certified” by regulators.

You can best secure your privacy by pushing your therapist, your family away from Micoshit.

Just watching from Europe. I’m covered by strong and enforced privacy regulations.

Please do elaborate how they don’t work.

The US really needs to work on getting privacy rights in the constitution. There were some implied rights, but the current court’s busy rolling out back.

A well run, non-partisan campaign could fix this.

Sure, I’ll give it a shot:

Does Windows 11 meet European regulations?

Any answer other than “No” is a rebuttal against OP’s argument.

Yes, I run it at home. Clever enough, Microsoft has this handy little trick of asking you about your region during installation. And so it knows who it can screw over, and who not.

Maybe we should tell people to use Linux

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