Summary
Donations to Kamala Harris’ campaign are now partially directed to a “Recount Account,” raising speculation about a possible recount effort despite her recent concession to Donald Trump, who won with 312 Electoral College votes.
Although recounts in close states could be requested, Harris’ campaign has emphasized funding efforts to support close Senate and House races still undecided.
The campaign’s website urges donations to help “see the election across the finish line” for Democrats in Congress, while Republicans have already secured a Senate majority and the House remains in contention.
A sobering statistic:
Trump won with the support of just 75 million votes in a country with 335 million citizens.
In other words, just 22 percent of the US citizens decided to drive the country off a cliff, and everyone else is now going down with them.
This is completely normal. In almost every election far more people vote for “nobody” than for either candidate. So the percentage of people who support any president is always super low. The support for these politicians is very small but the hegemonic narrative completely obscures this.
Trump won with the support of just 75 million votes in a country with 335 million citizens.
In other words, just 22 percent of the US citizens decided to drive the country off a cliff,
Wrong.
He won 75 million active votes plus 10-15 million people who opted to stay home, knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.
They are just as guilty as the Trump voters.
They are just as guilty as the Trump voters.
This is not untrue, but it’s also not a meaningful path forward.
Is it really that 15 million uninspired people are “okay with racism”? Even if we take that at face value, okay? How do we inspire them, then? Losing is not an option for us.
Never claimed to have an answer for it.
But denying truth just because it’s inconvenient or we don’t have an answer for it doesn’t change the fact that it’s the truth.
Nah. The missing votes compared to 2020 that everyone is harking on about wouldn’t have changed the election results thanks to the electoral college. Harris would have won pop vote, but Trump still would have won the election. Nevermind the fact that you can’t know all those missing votes would have been for Harris.
Stop looking for someone else to blame when the only culprits responsible for Trump winning are the ones that voted for him.
Trump got virtually the same number of votes that he did in 2020. Harris got 10+ million less votes than Biden did in 2020.
And the losses were across the board, hitting safe blue states along with battleground states. It was so bad that states like New Jersey and California almost looked competitive.
Republicans came out for Trump. Democrats stayed home for Harris. The math proves it.
Nah, how about not making flimsy excuses for apathy and it’s consequences.
If you didn’t vote for Harris, you are complicit in whatever Trump’s administration does the next 4 years, and we’re not going to let you hide from your culpability. Regardless of whatever BS you come up with to justify your decision after the fact.
There was nobody for them to vote for. That’s absolutely the fault of the dems.
I’m sorry, I must have been hallucinating when I saw the black woman that spent the last 3 months campaigning.
In fairness, though, not all of those citizens are eligible to vote. I found a link that says there are 244 million eligible voters. That’s now 30%.
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/10-things-to-know-2024-presidential-election/
And not all eligible citizens are registered. Yes, I am aware that Republicans fuck with the voter rolls. I found a link that says there are 162m registered voters in the US, which seems low. But assuming it is accurate, we’re now at 46%.
https://www.statista.com/topics/11901/2024-us-presidential-election/#topicOverview
There is no getting around the fact that we brought this on ourselves.
You can’t just ignore the worst parts of the system. Many many people are disenfranchised and the dems haven’t done anything to change that. Many people live in “red” or “blue” states where their vote doesn’t matter at all and the dems haven’t done anything to change that. Many people see no reason to register and again the dems are to blame for not offering a viable alternative. When less than 28% of USAians are willing to support your candidate, maybe the other 72% of the country isn’t the problem.
Tbh we cannot say for sure what the other 78% would have voted.
Nonetheless non voters almost make me more angry that Republican voters
Maybe it will make you feel a little better that there were only 244M eligible voters this election?
The University of Florida’s Election Lab reported (as of November 9) that turnout was around 62% of the voting-eligible population.
Why were the other citizens not eligible to vote? Smells of disenfranchisement unless there are way more minors than I thought.
If ur too stupid or lazy to exercise your right to have a say in ur own future u deserve zero sympathy and have zero right to complain. Here in australia we have mandatory voting to ensure u have a say or at the very least ensure no shenanigans around preventing particular groups from voting. And before u say u cant force someone to have an opinion thats absolutely right u also have the right to spoil ur ballot.
The Presidential race ain’t changing, but I can see recounts possible in some close House races. There are still several House races within 1 point either way with lots of vote to count. It is extremely unlikely that Democrats win all those, but if even if just one seat is picked away in a recount it will decrease the Republican majority and make it harder for them to pass their agenda.
Get that rich donor class to pay for it. They make all the demands anyway.
I just sent this to Biden & Harris via the White House contact page https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/. I share in case you would like to add your voice and may find it helpful to have a pre-existing template to use or edit. Please feel free to share with others as you see fit. Peace, Atelopus-zeteki
Template: I would like to add my voice in the call for a recount of the 2024 presidential election. I would also like to ask that you conduct a full investigation into tampering, interference, and fraud for this election.
· 32 bomb threats were called into democratic leaning polling places in swing states, causing them to be closed for extended periods of time on Election Day.
· At least one bomb threat was called into a vote counting center.
· Polling locations were closed while voters were still in line to vote.
· Multiple Ballot drop boxes were set on fire, in democratic leaning areas, losing thousands of ballots.
· Many voters reported not receiving mail in ballots, while districts apparently had not sent thousands of them.
· Hundreds of people in swing states are reporting that their votes have not been counted or even have never been received, though they were dropped off/mailed on time
· Some voters also reported instances of their outgoing mail not being picked up after placing their ballot in their mailbox.
· Voters also reported having their ballots invalidated for reasons such as invalid signatures, and given no chance to fix it.
We cannot allow election interference. Please order a recount as soon as possible.
The American people do not trust the results of this election. The people are concerned that there is outside interference – from foreign governments and from private corporations at least – in our election. We are concerned that this was not a free and fair election. We are concerned that we are being lied to and a dictator is trying to take over our government. I am begging you to do everything in your power to stop this from taking place. Thank you very much for your time and attention to this matter.
Took me less than five minutes. I highly encourage everyone to do it.
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
https://www.senate.gov/senators/
The message doesn’t need to be long. Just mention the 14th amendment, section 3 and that they need to do their duty as Congress and not allow an insurrectionist (January 6th 2021) to hold office.
Do you have any actual source for this? Some of it is just farcical on its face. Like the thousands of ballots in drop boxes. I saw articles for 3 drop boxes, amounting to around a hundred at most, spread over two states.
You’re also accusing staunchly Democratic election systems of sand bagging Harris over multiple states. The breadth of conspiracy that would take is mind boggling. It is literally unbelievable.
That should all definitely be investigated but I don’t think “recount” is the right word for a lot of it. Anything that was counted should be, but a lot just seems like outright interference where there’s nothing to recount because people weren’t able to vote. Was it enough to matter? No one can really know for sure.
Bomb threats are bad enough on there own. Even worse when it interferes with an election. The culprits need to be severely punished, though that may not stop people from doing it again if they feel it worked.
I don’t know what the solution is if there are quite a few people willing to do anything they can to interfere in an election. You can’t watch every postman, polling worker, polling station, etc. There’s just too many and not enough people. But then you get into a “who watches the watchmen” situation even if there were.
Feels like the problem is having a two party system and also only needing a majority to get things passed. If we had proper representation by multiple parties then cheating from any one party would hopefully be far less effective.
I’m not sure what there is to recount in this election. There might be one or two house seats but it’s not going to swing control of anything. Honestly they should bank it and use it to buy some political capital with the people.
