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No, because a Utopia is a Utopia for everyone or it’s not a Utopia.

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Utopia means “no place” so all utopias, by definition are imaginary.,

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Yes!

"The word utopia was coined in 1516 from Ancient Greek by the Englishman Sir Thomas More for his Latin text Utopia. It literally translates as “no place”, "

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia

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So, when people say they’ll be happy in utopia, they’re unintentionally making a depressing dark joke?

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6 points

Neverland

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This the etymology yes.

“But it now usually describes an ideal society that is considered better than contemporary society.”

So, as you can see we’re not in ancient greece, are we? “Buzz lightyear smug squint”

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Utopias are inherently dystopian in they only work when everyone wants the same things and everyone is bound by strict rules. There is no such thing as a utopia.

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Interesting concept. Kind of like “is it really heaven if people you didn’t like while you were alive are also there?”

Utopia can never be utopia for everyone because some people will want hierarchy and superiority over others. So with this requirement, utopia cannot exist. Maybe that’s why it doesn’t :D

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“Utopia” doesn’t mean everyone gets what they want. People can want things to be worse while still living in a Utopia.

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I agree with your more sensible definition but it is a slippery concept.

It’s a bit ambiguous what it means to say:

unless it’s Utopia for everyone

Is it Utopia “for” someone if it isn’t their idea of Utopia? Seems like you are saying yes.

But if yes, then as long as current conditions meet anyone’s definition of utopia, then we’re all living in one.

Which brings us back to the OP.

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36 points

You better start believing in cyberpunk dystopia Miss Turner. You’re in one!

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Do we at least get cool cyborg bodies that last longer and cool advanced tech?

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7 points

No, but we have shitty A.I videos that will probably spread propaganda on Facebook, so nearly just as good!

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9 points

Best I can do is cyber-psychosis and some shit from 10 years ago

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1 point

Goddamn it Rick you swindler

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24 points

After 1 billion the billionaire wants 2 billion.

You can rest soundly knowing these people too will never be happy.

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The handful I’ve encountered up-close-and-personal are legitimately miserable. Nice trips, sure. Nice stuff. But the opposite of “joyful” in a very obvious way.

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One man’s Heaven is another man’s Hell.

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If you’re thinking of American right-wingers and fascists who are currently celebrating Trump’s victory, I must say their view of the world is so dark, negative and pessimistic, that nobody could really describe it as utopia-like. This is a brief respite for them, nothing more.

If you’re thinking more abstractly, or of some very specific incredibly lucky people, then I guess it could be so.

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