95 points

Just remember, America. You voted for what’s coming. You asked for it and so you have no one to blame but yourselves.

They told you exactly what they are planning to do.

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The problem isn’t that America voted for this. Only 21% of the country voted for Trump.

The problem is that America didn’t vote at all.

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81 points

That only makes them more blameworthy, not less.

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26 points

Unless we understand why they didn’t vote it’s just going to keep happening

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7 points

This election showed us that the majority of americans are some combination of stupid, hateful and too apathetic to even vote to save their neighbor’s lives. It doesn’t matter which one, these people are dangerous.

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The people who abstained from voting, made their vote. When fascism is on the line, you don’t get to sit out and be absolved. They’ve signed on for everything that is to come.

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You can’t count people under the voting age and you need to add the people who didn’t vote because it means they supported whoever got in power. 170m registered voters in 2020 so must be similar. 43% of registered voters voted for him, 40% for Harris, 1% others, that’s 16% who didn’t vote that we can add to Trump’s number… But that’s just registered voters and doesn’t count eligible ones who didn’t register!

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Not taking a vote, just like postponing or not taking a decision, is equivalent to taking one, so here we are.

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3 points

Yup. For all who were able but didn’t, a non voter is a trump voter for the next 4 years.

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3 points

Right, and unless we figure out why people didn’t bother voting this election we will be right back here in another four years. Just like we get right back here every single time there’s low turnout that gets a Republican elected.

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2 points

“There comes a time when the… the risk of doing nothing becomes the greatest risk of all.”

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16 points

I didn’t ask for it. I voted for Harris. If what you said they are going to do is the truth, you’ll suffer the consequences too, and will be just as guilty as I am.

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1 point

Yes.

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18 points

Only about a 4th of us…a fourth voted counter and the rest didn’t or can’t vote…

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11 points

I voted against trump. Why am I to blame?

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10 points

They told you exactly what they are planning to do.

Which is why half of the country voted against Trump, and why a lot of the other half voted for Trump. He told us exactly what he was planning to do.

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We have very little say in how our government works. Over the course of US history the material decisions have been whisked away to less democratic structures (eg the supreme court, the federal reserve). Even early on the democracy was built for property owners (owners of people and land). People are feeling disenfranchised and the vote for trump is a (petulant) vote to flip the gameboard. Of course voting for trump is one of the worst things you can do if you want you and your community’s lives to improve, but the fundamental motivation is disenfranchisement and anger

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Yes. Blue MAGA disenfranchised left wing voters.

MAGA emboldened right wing voters.

Republicans are always at fault for being right wing fascists.

Democrats are currently at fault for being right wing fascists.

The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.

Maybe AOC will learn from that spectacular sell out she did at the Nth hour, and will learn from her mistakes.

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58 points

Both her and Sanders said to vote for the one that could be persuaded to come further left, and you’re throwing her under the bus? Wow, it’s everyone’s fault. Jefferson was right.

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6 points

They said “blue MAGA.” Not worth engaging.

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Yes, that is the spectacular selling out to a right wing fascist that disenfranchised left wing voters that I was referencing.

I see you have taken this loss, this spectacular failure of your making, and you are pausing to learn from it. /s

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The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.

The real victims (with a say/vote) are the Americans who voted for Harris. The people who voted for Trump and those who abstained from voting actively and passively chose what’s coming.

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-45 points

You actively sought loss, despite all warning, caught in a fascist riptide, again, you didnt listen and lost, but you are the victim.

Give me a break.

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Can you or anyone else tell me what “blue MAGA” is?

Edit: It sounds like the term means centrist/center-right Democrats who want to uphold the status quo. How is that “MAGA” of any flavor? I thought the MAGA movement was just a bunch of Christofascists.

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37 points

It’s what the bOtH SiDeS knobs use to justify their apathy.

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I usually don’t use the term because it makes me sound like a tankie, but when I say blueMAGA it’s to describe the “hold your nose and vote Harris you fucking donkey” condescending pricks who that they’re both entitled to shut down all criticism of their preferred candidate and actually convincing anyone to vote by doing it. You know, the people now trying to convince themselves Harris only lost because Americans are sexist and racist and not at all because Harris’s campaign fucking sucked. How to tell: They’ll call anyone who criticizes Harris (they still do it but less often than before the election) MAGA, a Russian bot or a troll and seem convinced everyone who cares about Palestine is/was part of a Russian conspiracy to get Trump elected.

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-17 points

Establishment democrats who are pro Israel, and anti Ukraine. They are concerned with the super rich, and stand in the way of progressive policies. They say they are democrats, but their actions sound much more republican

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15 points

Oh noes! You couldn’t pick your in-flight meal? Yeah, opening the emergency hatch at 30,000 ft was probably the smart move.

/s (for the stupids)

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Genocide. Cheney endorsement. Boarder wall. Cop cities. Removal of trans treatment. Republicans in the cabinet. The most “lethal” military in history.

In-flight meal.

Seriously dude. Wake up.

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13 points

Blue maga is not a thing, has never been a thing, and will likely never be a thing.

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10 points

It’s a subtle rebranding label to say “both sides” while not actually engaging in discussion of the problems. And there are problems, all over the place. But now not only have they (they are the ones pulling the strings, not MAGA) got the power placement they wanted, they’ve succeeded in pitting the peons against each other in this rhetoric of finger pointing and blame. Bread and circuses…this thread is an example of one of the rings in that circus.

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10 points

The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims

Maybe those lazy fucks should have gone out and voted then.

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“YOUR VOTE IS MEANINGLESS! IF YOU VOTE FOR ANYTHING BUT THE GENOCIDE, YOU ARE VOTING FOR TRUMP! DONT EVEN BOTHER VOTING! YOUR VOTE IS A WASTE OF EFFORT UNLESS YOU ARE VOTING BLUE MAGA!!!”

An incredible amount of disenfranchised Democrats don’t vote

“THOSE LAZY FUCKS!”

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9 points

Here’s a downvote and a block. Feels like that’s what you were going for so congrats!

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I was going for conversation about what all the Blue MAGA fascists here learned through all of this.

You are demonstrating how you learned jack shit and all those downvotes demonstrate you arent the only one.

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Democrats have absolutely shit messaging and refuse to speak to the working class unless they deign to condescend and you’re blaming checks notes “blue MAGA”? What planet are you on?

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1 point

Not all 32 left wing voters in America!

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63 points

Everybody is warning us of the impact of the election. They’ve been warning us for years.

The problem is that Americans stood up and either said “We know. We just don’t care.”, or “We know. We want it that way.”

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After briefly speaking to one of my younger (white, male, most likely straight, but turns out he’s prob an “enlightened centrist”) co-workers earlier today, it seems like there are people who just don’t believe it can happen.

He told me that “both sides have their propaganda” when I asked if he’s read Project 2025. I wanted to scream.

The conversation literally ended with me telling him that this has happened before. He said, yeah, but not here. I was like, we’re not special. Such a disappointing conversation. Ruined my day/night. Literally used the “it will never happen here” line.

This is a man with a STEM degree. He’s not stupid.

I think there are a lot of people who are in for a shock when the shit really starts hitting the fan.

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25 points

You can have tons of degrees and still be stupid.

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9 points

Confirmed I knew a man who worked doing advanced particle research at cern but who also voted for the Tory party. In the words of a wise man, ‘that’s the dumbest smart guy I know’. People are retarded and it’s extremely annoying.

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Look at Ben Carson

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Buckminster Fuller, who was smart enough to predict the geometry of the most common object in space, the ‘Bucky Ball’ and designed geodesic domes, thought that eating steak was more efficient than plants because the cow focused the nutrients.

Stay in your lane, experts.

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Then you’ve got the “Did Joe Biden step down?” crowd just completely oblivious lol.

In the aftermath the number of fuckwits I saw not voting or voting against their own interests has been insane.

Socialists sitting out because of Gaza.

Black women complaining Trump won but not voting.

Working class woman whose husband is in a union and he himself voted Harris; whose son is gay… Yep, she voted Trump.

I’m so tired of trying to drag along stupid people.

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13 points

22% of America said Fuck America, and thus we were fucked.

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To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom.

-Charles Haddon Spurgeon

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Or we know but don’t think it’ll actually happen

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Kamala Harris was given an assignment that no other person in American history was given — to construct a presidential campaign in 90-100 days with absolutely no expectation or anticipation that she would be called to that assignment

Canada’s federal election process is 36-50 days, or half that.

I agree with most of what was written, but I wanted to point out that countries put forth a scalable platform every 4-5 years in half the time. It’s a bag-drive, but it’s the timeline.

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Before Last Week Tonight, John Oliver was on a podcast called The Bugle and I can remember him bemoaning how long US elections were compared to Britain. I wonder how he feels about covering our bullshit all the time now, I imagine similar to the exhaustion that led Jon to mostly retire

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If all candidates are on the same timeline then I agree. That’s not the case here. 100 days vs literal years of planning.

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8 points

Yes and no, the official campaign is a month and a half but the campaign starts way before that. Also the leaders are chosen way ahead of the campaign, Harris became the candidate 3 months ahead of the election.

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It is true, election cycles are much shorter in other countries but that’s just not the case in the US. There’s a saying that there’s no such thing as bad publicity. Trump has been in the news with his bat shit crazy rhetoric for years now. That’s hard to defeat in just a few months. Especially when his base is so fanatical they will vote for him even if he killed someone.

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Tbf, Canada has like 15% the population, mostly in a smaller amount of areas. The US has more states than Canada has major cities.

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We have mass media, you can scale that up. It’s not like Trudeau had to meet everyone in person to get elected.

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2 points

I dunno what most people are like in America anymore but there’s at least a hefty portion that get their news via social media apps and side sources.

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1 point

Dude this is America, it takes us four months to shop for Christmas gifts. Spikes in “did Joe Biden drop out?” happened on search engines during November 5th. We’re idiots.

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To be fair, that also included variants like “when did Joe Biden drop out?” Obviously, people are idiots, but that was at least somewhat misleading.

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27 points

I’ll vote for her.

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If you get another vote.

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Oh no, women are gonna lose reproductive rights, climate change will get worse, Trump wont face any consequences for his rampant crimes, prices will outpace wages and minimum wage will be forgotten. There will be genocide and protests will be crushed.

Wait who was president the last 4 years?

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