The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.

Elon Musk’s support among Democrats has withered to a new low as he has embraced Republican politics, according to a national NBC News poll.

Only 6% of Democrats in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-17, said they had positive feelings about Musk, while 79% said they had negative feelings. The numbers were flipped for Republicans, with 62% having positive feelings toward him and 14% negative feelings. Independents were split, 31% to 36%.

The poll shows that views of Musk are increasingly polarized, reflecting the transformation of his public image in recent years from that of an environmentally aware automaker crusading against fossil fuels to that of a conservative activist aligned with former President Donald Trump.

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Why is musk’s(and Swift’s) popularity newsworthy? Unless they are trying to run for office, who cares?

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Musk has continued to interfere with politics over and over again. From donations, to censorship, to being a weird fucking creep to female politicians.

Swift was dragged in there because Donald Trump shared fake AI images of her supporting Donald. To fix the blowback, Swift said, “Ew you old filthy pedo, I’m not doing that”. (Don’t quote me)

Its newsworthy because it’s news.

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So Musk is a creepy dickhead. That’s not news. It’s been apparent for quite a while now

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Because they have lots of money and influence among the 18-35 demographic. Would I prefer if news corps didn’t cover their every move and thought? Yeah I would, but unfortunately news featuring Musk and Swift gets clicks which drives advertising.

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Musk bought one of the biggest social media platforms expressly to manipulate news, which in turn manipulates politics and markets.

He’s basically like a narcissistic Rupert Murdock who wants to make his manipulation all centered around how cool he is.

That’s news.

Taylor Swift is just filler content. It’s taking the place of worlds largest cookie stories. But the reason it gains traction is that she has taken on a bit of a counter persona to the Right’s habitual sexism. She’s an influential woman. The Right can’t stand that shit.

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It was news when he bought the platform. It was news when advertisers boycotted his platform. It was news when it first became a far right cesspool. It’s news when X finally capitulated to the Brazilian government.

His approval rating doesn’t matter and isn’t news. His continual support of far right figures isn’t news unless he is supporting someone new.

Do we report about Steve Ballmer or Tim Cook’s approval ratings? No. Because it doesn’t matter. It’s not news. Stop giving Musk attention he doesn’t deserve. We shouldn’t be talking about him. He craves the spotlight. Don’t give it to hin

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You must be new. This is America we are talking about.

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Yep, it’s not like we can vote him out.

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Who. Fucking. Cares.

(Not directed at OP, just the idea of the survey in general. Who needed to know this information? Why do they think the public needs to know how popular a random rich guy it’s.)

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A survey conducted means someone paid for it. I’m having a hard time believing anyone but Elon himself being willing to pay for this survey.

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Maybe someone on the board at Tesla demanded it when they gave him the money to prove he wasn’t worth investing in. 🤷

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I care, math is neat.

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Neeeeerd

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he’s not a random rich guy and claiming that is either disingenuous or irresponsible. though i get the frustration, just because he’s a demonic troglodyte you wish you never heard about anymore doesn’t mean you get to ignore his existence. then they get to do whatever they want.

pushback, scrutiny and ridicule are the only tools we have against massively influential cunts. and because they’re massively influential, their popularity matters.

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There’s also the fact that if people hate him enough and realise how genuinely stupid the guy is, they’ll start wondering if the economic system that allowed him to amass the wealth of a country as millions starve might be doing it wrong.

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even before that, if enough people hate him, his personal brand would become toxic and his influence would hopefully shrink.

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Considering how politically active he is, he might become a politician (even running for president?). A lot of people will care about this if suddenly Elon musk appears in American ballots.

EDIT: I just remembered that Elon cannot run for USA president. But idk if other political positions are open.

And seeing how trump can break every law, I don’t see what would prevent Elon from running for president.

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That’s kind of a paradox - we can’t stop reporting actions of assholes like him because they do things borderline dangerous to society, but that exact reporting gives them the popularity to do all that

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With our current SCOTUS all he has to do is sue then ride it up to SCOTUS and have em declare it unconstitutional to have requirements for office.

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would prevent Elon from running for president.

Not native-born though

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Become president/buy a president. Same diff.

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It’s not for us, it is for him.

He really cares how popular he is, that is why he is buying all these popular businesses to pretend he founded them.

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Money is power. Rich people are more powerful than politics. We should care much more about them than we do now. Musk is dangerous. He’s also visible and that’s a good thing. The quiet invisible ones are even more dangerous.

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Someone may want to know if you are a Democrat or Republican (for advertising, for gerrymandering, whatever). That person may not be able to ask you a direct question like that though (or may feel that you may lie about the answer to such a question anyway).

As such, they likely carry out occasional surveys asking people who are Democrat or Republicans for their opinions on something else. Once they find something else that can strongly correlate your political affiliation with a specific opinion, they know of a new question they can ask someone. That new question should generally reveal what your political party is most likely and they can then proceed with that “most likely” answer.

So “who cares” is those who cannot directly ask you something. They will ask you something else and use that answer to deduce the information they cannot obtain directly.

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Makes much more sense. Thank you.

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As I understand this “question by proxy” can be even more effective because people are less likely to lie about Musk than about their political views

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Pretty much every media outlet across the world.

The opposing party in the UK is electing leaders, and they’ve all been asked what they think of him. Like it or not, but in turning one of the biggest multi-billion dollar social media platforms into a small million dollar right-wing platform for crypto bots, he’s now got a lot of influence on politics across the world.

What makes it funnier is that he probably doesn’t give a fuck about the Tories in the UK, but if Trump loses he’ll own a right-wing platform with zero influence on what he cares about.

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Orrrrr and hear me out. He’s just such an amazing genius that he’s pissing off democrats as that’s the only thing that appeals to republicans. All of this to trick repubs away from their “my truck only does gas you soy boys” minds and into buying evs since the democrats have already been saturated. Wild conspiracy here!

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Do you really think all Democrats already have EVs? Because while they’re surely the most likely to buy them, they’re now also decidedly less likely to buy Tesla. So your “amazing genius” actually just alienated his biggest market demographic.

Elon Musk is a fucking idiot who has done more than anyone else in history to disprove the idea of Billionaire Exceptionalism.

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Something to avoid- standing near a parked Tesla with sentry mode enabled drains its battery significantly as it tracks you. Locating a camera and displaying a paper sign, one light enough to blow in the wind that reads “musk sucks”, would accomplish the same thing, and should also be avoided.

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While funny… I think you underestimate how big the battery in a Tesla is and also how little power the computer would pull.

THAT said… I wonder if there is a drive somewhere that could be filled doing that?

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From what I understand, it wastes an extra ~2%/hr. A tragic sum, if done repeatedly throughout the week. I think it overwrights old data as the drive fills. I can’t see utility in that, aside from mischievously scrubbing old footage.

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It’s nowhere near 2% an hour. It’s like ~300w/h to keep it all running, and they said they were going to reduce that further by 40% in the near future, so ~180w/h

300w/h on a 62kw/h (model 3 standard range) battery is 0.48% an hour. You’d lose 3.82% for an 8h workday, and soon to be 2.29%

And the % would decrease as the battery is larger like a long range vehicle.

I’m not saying this is ideal, but 2%/h is just flat out wrong, and almost a whole order of magnitude after the update.

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Sentry mode turns off at 20%

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Fuck Elon

Fuck Tesla

Fuck Xitter

Fuck Spa Sex

Fuck Starlink

Did I miss anyone? Oh yes, and Fuck Elon.

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Neuralink.

Fuck that shit, too.

(Especially when you learn about thiel and the other tech Bros plans to harvest humans for biofuel by keeping them alive and hooked up in a virtual world. As a more “humane alternative to genocide”)

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

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Why do these people keep looking at the Matrix as a manual instead of a warning?

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One of my super tinfoil theories is that all mainstream science/speculative fiction is a psyop not meant to warn, but to desensitise us to the dystopia.

Obviously, that would just seem crazy…

On an unrelated note:

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/12/21/41772/

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Behind the Bastards recently did a two-parter on Yarvin with Ed Helms as a guest. It’s depressing but good, as per usual.

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The Boring Company, fuck them, too.

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I’m guessing there’s some story with spa sex? “Elon Spa Sex” isn’t a search term I’m willing to enter.

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Pretty sure it’s an autocorrected “SpaceX”

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Or just a pun that went over my head. Either way, thanks for the answer!

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Ah! Thanks.

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Fuck Spa Sex

What did spa sex ever do to you tho?

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It ruined Myspacex

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No sex nor spa.

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Got a UTI ☹️. 🔥🥒

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