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Long before Israel, Americans been sending weapons to Saudi Arabia the people who took out the twin towers, and nobody seems to care.

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Patriots care. We just don’t have a lot of them in office - most people are for sale.

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“Patriots” who are either too aloof to get involved or just become traitors along the way to power

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since when is Bin Laden + a couple of goons the whole people of Saudi Arabia ?

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it’s called synecdoche!

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You forgot the part where Saudi Arabia started courting American aid and literally expelled Bin Laden for being anti-American. That doesn’t make SA “the good guys” but it makes a huge difference in how your framing paints SA’s position and involvement with Al Qaeda during the 2000s. Their history is long and complicated, but during the war on terror, SA was much more aligned with the US against Al Qaeda and Bin Laden

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they did say “the people”

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The international mujahadeen movement was born in Saudi Arabia; funded by Saudi Arabia; created out of a quasi death cult of islam called Wahabism founded in Saudi Arabia; bin Laden was a major figure in Saudi politics and society and from one of the richest, non-Royal families in the country; almost all the members of Al-Queda were Saudi.

If Saudi foreign policy and money created the mujahadeen, then they are Saudi.

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You forgot the part where Saudi Arabia started courting American aid and literally expelled Bin Laden for being anti-American. That doesn’t make SA “the good guys” but it makes a huge difference in how your framing paints SA’s position and involvement with Al Qaeda during the 2000s. Their history is long and complicated, but during the war on terror, SA was much more aligned with the US against Al Qaeda and Bin Laden

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Source?

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everything is connected, jon.

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I know its a shitpost but since when is the US funding hamas / hezbollah (i assume that what the right one is) did i miss some conspiracy?

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It’s a bit of a stretch, but Netanyahu used to allow Qatari funds through to Hamas and Qatar is home to the largest USA military base in the middle east. So the USA government spend money in Qatar and Qatar send money to Hamas, so one could argue that some USA tax money ended up with Hamas that way.

But in the same way all economies and trade are interconnected. It’s not because my garagist gave money to his addict child, who used part of that money to buy drugs, that I’m now suddenly guilty of funding the drug trade. Money goes around.

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In a more direct way, there is video evidence of Israeli soldiers delivering briefcases full of money to Hamas leaders. Netanyahu and his cronies want Hamas to be in charge of Palestine, because the last thing he needs is a competent and legitimate Palestinian government.

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Do you have a source for this? Sounds interesting

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Isn’t that the Qatar money the above comment was talking about?

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“my gasoline dollars” would have been more accurate.

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Hamas has been siphoning money and materials from the aid provided to Gaza for decades. Palestinians receive tons of aid, mainly from western countries.

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I doubt taking some food and water and tents is enough to finance the building of rockets. Those resources are more likely to come from the surrounding countries.

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The aid sent to Gaza isn’t just food and water. It includes construction materials, machinery, all kinds of equipment, and simply money to pay salaries and buy whatever.

Cement and steel to build houses was regularly used to build tunnels for military purposes instead. Water pipes were used to build rockets and so on.

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Another thing to consider is that the US typically sells weapons to Israel (with some exceptions), meaning that’s mostly not our tax dollars.

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Yes, you might have read my comment above clearly noting exceptions. The bulk of weapons going to Israel are purchased by Israel. Whenever you hear something like “the Biden Admin is sending a $50 billion arms package to Israel,” that’s Israel buying weapons, because Congress has to approve gifts/aid.

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Lots of stolen US aid money

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Spending on missile defense is one of the only parts of the military budget I’m alright with. Heck, why not expand it, intercept every missile targeting civilians regardless of who fired it.

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Ugh Lemmy’s turned into the worst part of reddit faster than reddit did.

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The community here is worse than Reddit tbh. I think people here are actually meaner and ruder than on Reddit, regardless of the “white knight” mentality here.

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Reddit was full of bots but the people are just savvy enough to make an account. Lemmy’s users are not a general representation of the public, but more of the technical kind. You can probably describe most users just by the most popular posts and interactions here. So…

Male Atheist Liberal In their late 20s but majority in their 30s, with a large amount of trekkies in their 40s for some reason. Pc technical, can use a pc well enough to understand above the basic concepts of the best buy laptop the general public use. Too involved in the world affairs causing rigid pessism of most people who don’t share their views. If you don’t think like us you’re one of “them”.

Oh and anonymous keyboard warriors. Everyone can be a “professional” on a subject if they can dissect a comment someone made and Google any relevant information to refute their arguments. It’s pretty much this that makes them ruder.

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trekkies in their 40s for some reason. Pc technical, can use a pc well enough to understand above the basic concepts of the best buy laptop the general public use.

I feel attacked, yet also acknowledged.

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Yea. That all seems right ha. I agree.

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Who could have known the *nix community could be so insular and gatekeepy

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100%

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Tell me more about the worst parts of reddit, what to look out for.

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Look out for cringe comments like this for starters.

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