141 points

To be clear, if you’re at all concerned about maintaining a food budget, even if it’s $500/week the billionaire class is still your enemy.

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108 points

To be clear, the billionaire class is your enemy

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39 points

To be clear, the 100 million class is also your enemy

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20 points

I am always amazed how everyone is so focused on billionaires only

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Any billionaire can lose 90% of their wealth and have above 100 million left.

Many can lose 99% and have above 100 million left.

Some can lose 99% and still be billionaires.

The 100 millionaire will still have a million or more left after losing 99%, but that’s not “live like hogs in the fat house forever” money at least. It’s just “I don’t have to worry if I lose my job” money.

A hundredbillionaire can lose 99% of their money and not make any perceptible changes in their lifestyle.

I propose the following:

Gap individual wealth at 50000x the national median annual income. Max wealth anyone in the US could have is, at present, under 2 billion. Other countries will vary, but generally it’s plenty enough to motivate people to innovate, but nobody gets to be Bezos or Musk wealthy. Yachts should count towards this wealth gap, at a depreciation rate of 5% a year off the build cost. Primary residence doesn’t count unless it’s also used for generating income. You get to have one car, regardless of price, that doesn’t get counted towards it, and the other ones count at market value. So you can have your classic car that appreciates in price, and a daily driver - without having to worry about the classic car’s effect on your wealth limit.

Side effect is that now suddenly rich people near the gap will be a lot more interested in paying better wages to the working class. Why? Because then they’d get to keep more of their money. And to raise the median efficiently, you need to be raising wages for the poorest among us first and foremost.

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3 points

with 100mils you can buy two luxurious houses and still have enough money to spend a million each year which is more money than most people make in their entire life, so yea kind of on the border.

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6 points

Hey, there might be some politicians on here who can always call up their good friends whenever they need something!

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To be positively translucent, even someone with $1,000,000 in the bank has 1000x less than the poorest billionaire. For other disturbing facts, see https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/.

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8 points

For everyone following along at home: this website is worth a click if you’ve never seen it before!

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2 points

Represented as a volume is also great. If I’m not wrong, his wealth in 500€ bills is a 165 m (180 yards) cube. One million is 3 l (a little less than 0.8 gallons).

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Which of course is a stupid comparison indicative of economic ignorance, because wealth does not grow linearly for anyone who doesn’t stuff their money under a mattress.

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72 points

Hell, even if you can easily afford way more than that, you are still closer to the person who can only afford $2 of food a day than a billionaire.

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30 points

The difference between a million and a billion is about a billion

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23 points

Ain’t that the truth! I’m a lay off and a medical emergency from needing to do this diet.

Billionaires are either an apocalypse or a revolution away from needing to do this.

One of these is much more likely to happen tomorrow than the other.

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38 points

Ok but for real tho. The average American severely underestimates how far you can get on rice, beans, lentils and chickpeas.

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Serious question, if I live off just that, I end up feeling like absolute garbage. That’s even with supplementing it with greens like spinach and some other veggies and vitamin supplements. What am I missing?

Like, macro-wise, I can replace meat and other things, but it doesn’t seem to hit the same?

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8 points

Get a blood test. You could have a micronutrient deficiency. It is common to develop either vitamin D, B or iron deficiencies when you cut meat since they just aren’t as abundant outside of red meat and organ meat.

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6 points

Would you care to elaborate on what you feel like when you try living on plants? What do you tend to eat? How long does it take before you start feeling like shit?

Judging by your last comment about it “not hitting the same” my initial thought is that the issue might not even be nutritional, possibly more psychological/subjective.

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4 points

Don’t know what you’re missing because we don’t know everything you eat

Spinach gives iron so based off the information it’s not that

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I end up feeling like absolute garbage.

Maybe, not cooking it well enough? Try changing your recipes, perhaps? Maybe more variety in spices?
Gram, pulses and dried beans (rehydrated before eating) with rice, tend to make my favourite recipes
and even though I use milk products, I feel pretty good even if it is lemonade with black-salt instead.

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5 points

Oh, it tastes fine, I’m saying like…energy-wise and sugar-crash-wise I feel bad. Just wondering if I’m missing something.

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2 points

Maybe a shot of insulin, from the sounds of it.

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Every plant is trying to kill you. It doesn’t want to be eaten. It especially doesn’t want you to eat its seeds. We can detoxify most of the ones that people eat, but it costs

Eating the same plants over again can make you sick

You may not be as good at detoxifying those plants as the people who do well eating them

I know I’m a lot healthier with no plants in my diet than I have been with lots of plants

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6 points

If I could get us all to protest grocery store prices by eating nothing but staples whenever there is a random price increase I would die happy XD

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2 points

Rice amd beans is the most important thing on my region’s diet. You just can’t live without eating it at least once.

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YOU ARE A FOOL AND THE REBELLION DEMANDS YOU EAT LAGUMES!

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4 points

Capitalism demands you eat legumes or go into debt.

The rebellion demands you stay alive how you need to and organize, which in the US means eating cheap proteins as you gotta.

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35 points

Feel free to ask me questions on how to eat on a budget so you can keep your strength up while organizing against those that wish nothing more for you to work until the day you die and own nothing of consequence!

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Man where were you 8 years ago when I ate zero protein because I didn’t know it could be cheap. Couldn’t afford animal products and was conditioned to believe those were the only viable source of protein.

Btw I’d like to add textured vegetable protein to the list! It’s one of my go-tos nowadays.

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Out of interest, what do you mean with textured vegetable protein?

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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Textured-Vegetable-Protein-TVP-1-lb-Bag-All-Natural-Plant-Based-Protein-Chunks-Vegan/1920449526?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

Soy flour turned into little chunks to give feeling of chunks in things you’re used to having meat chunks in while being high in protein. So like burritos, stews, pasta sauce, stuff like that.

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I had to look it up myself.

Textured or texturized vegetable protein (TVP), also known as textured soy protein (TSP), soy meat, or soya chunks, is a defatted soy flour product, a by-product of extracting soybean oil. It is often used as a meat analogue or meat extender. It is quick to cook, with a protein content comparable to some meats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textured_vegetable_protein

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I grew up a similar way! My mom always referred to protein as meat. Needed to add chicken or beef or pork to be the “protein” to make a dinner complete.

Never mind it being cheese or bean based, meaning it had tons of protein.

I would have to do the math on TVP on if it’s a better source of protein per buck than like split peas. But glad it’s working out for you!

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Where I live it is, because of local-ish soy production. Also helps that it’s a complete protein, so you don’t have to think as much about which amino acids you’re getting from where.

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Another great one is seitan aka wheat meat, and it’s really cheap if you make it from flour rather than vital wheat gluten. Still pretty cheap if made from vital wheat gluten too.

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0 points

I like your mission, but I hate your methods. Think more about what you’re suggesting.

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2 points

You’ll have to clarify what is wrong with my methods.

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28 points

What about eating people’s cats and allegedly ducks as well? Did you know thousands of pets are euthanized each year? That’s all just wasted food.

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5 points

two conspiracy theories in one! i love that community.

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4 points

The “red necks” who do road kill specials are just fighting against ground beef being $5/pound (which is somehow after all the subsidies they get in the US)!

I feel like some red neck making fun of is straight up just making fun of folks who found a way to make do and be happy. Like owning your own land with a little pre fab you learned to maintain yourself, and eating lots of hunted game? Good stuff.

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Jesus Christ, you’re actually fucking nuts.

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2 points

This is ML memes. If you came in here expecting us not to be over the top about “seize the means of production” and “eat the rich” then you gotta pay more attention.

Sometimes I wonder if I’m far enough to the left to participate in ML.

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This man asking the real questions. As a non-conservative, I try to eat cats and dogs three times a week, and keep lagumes and oats to the other days.

I never touch animal protein, as the fascists plant tracking devices in these creatures! Birds are also a concern, as they aren’t real and are really government survailance devices!

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