A lot of the far right are millennials and Gen Z. While the proportions in different generations are different, this isn’t purely a generational thing. The implied message is that we can “wait them out,” but that is basically just the same as doing nothing. We can’t do nothing. We have to motivate people to vote, and then get them to volunteer and have them get others to vote.
If that’s what the map would look like if younger generations voted like 65+, then go get those people voting so we get that map next election.
That’s such a great point.
I’ve been hearing this bullshit “Wait them out” message for 30+ years. There is no waiting out bad ideas and propaganda. You have to fight it with truth and activism.
Listen, one side supports holocaust and wants endless wars with no Medicare4All or minimum wage increases, and the otherside wants the same. The literal only candidate not to stick to that script is insane Trump who is problematic for all his own reasons. The real lesson is people would rather not vote than support someone shitty, and call me crazy but that I live in NYC and only see more Trump Flags and literal looks of disgust when mentioning Harris, has me pretty convinced shes gonna lose really badly, like this might be in history books next to to failure.
And you part was what exactly? You contributed nothing and only double downed on the blue no matter who.
“Literal looks of disgust” probably when you’re at the local Nazi bar and say her name. NYC will overwhelmingly vote blue so you’re just being delusional. 🌻🌻🌻
Ok here me out, Black folks tell me she needs to sit the fuck down and slow her roll, Indians tell me they will not vote for a women, Asians say they can’t support a no bail prosecutor, Muslims call her Israeli and say she must be from Ethiopia, the ”white dudes” I see on TV all day are like her or Trump is that a joke? Again I do not see support that isn’t Trump Hate. You know, what do you like about Harris so maybe I could learn something today?
Hey is your again. Trying for gold in the “worst takes” Olympics? Trump flags are everywhere because these racist idiots left them up since 2016.
Lol they say 2024 everyone thinks hes stupid and consider Harris worse, that should be quite alarming. By the way where have we met before?
I heard this about Gen X and Millennials. Don’t rely on this at all. Educate young people and help them get to the polls. We may not get another chance at this.
I think it’s still true for us. They predicted we would turn more conservative as we aged, which hasn’t really happened.
I hope you’re right. I’m so tired of seeing evil win time and time again.
They are. I don’t remember the source but I probably read the same article. Millennials are the first generation that didn’t get more conservative as they aged. Might have to do with the fact that they’re also the first generation that didn’t get richer as they aged. Same is true for Gen Z tenfold.
I think Gen Z stands a real chance. We’re the first generation where the majority of us have had the Internet from birth, or at least long enough to not remember a time without it. We’re super connected all around the globe, and with more diversity in groups comes less bigotry.
Younger people are way less bigoted now then they were in my childhood (early Gen Z, barely not a millennial thank God). When I was in elementary and middle, everything not cool was called gay. Everyone called everything they didn’t like gay. It was completely synonymous with bad. A couple parents in my town recently got riled up cause a kid got a days suspension for using gay as a derogatory term against a gay kid. Most young people around here will tell you that he should’ve gotten more. In my day the other kid would’ve been suspended before the asshole.
Democratic voters are unreliable. They could probably get everything they wanted if once a year they took an hour or two out of their day to go vote. Instead they’ve let Republicans take over in a large number of counties and we have to deal with all these fucking jackasses in Congress blocking anything from happening. Democrats and youth voters would rather bitch and whine about Republicans than actually just vote when it matters.
Democratic voters would be winning if it wasn’t for gerrymandering. The fact is, they are playing against a loaded deck.
youth voters would rather bitch and whine about Republicans than actually just vote when it matters
Back when Bernie ran and lost the nomination it was argument after argument of young voters who bitched and whined and claimed they either weren’t gonna vote or vote 3rd party out of protest.
“Democratic voters” are unreliable because Democrats do not deliver, simple as that. Public healthcare, cannabis legalization, not-funding-a-genocide. Kamala is promising none of these things. Kamala is promising that America will have the most lethal military in the world. Kamala is promising America will support Israel’s “right to defend itself”. Kamala is promising a “secure border”.
Barring Tim Walz and a few policies, Kamala is running a campaign that the republicans of the Bush era would support wholeheartedly. Democrats consistently run campaigns on the premise that they are better than republicans, then quietly shift their policies towards the right. 4 years ago the they ran on not caging children and ruthlessly deporting families, now they’re running on “strong border” rhetoric.
Stop blaming voters for the Democrats inability to run on and enact good policy.
There are a lot more reasons for why young people don’t vote as much than just them being lazy. For example, young people move a lot more often than old people, so they have to update their voter registration. And if they don’t do that those two hours of their life they have to take off are meaningless.
Also, I highly doubt I’d get everything I wanted even if Democrats ran the entire country from bottom to top, because what I want isn’t terribly popular even among Democrats.
4 years ago the dems ran on not caging children at the border, now Kamala is running on how she’s going to sign a republican border bill and “secure our border”.
Is it really that hard to imagine why some voters might feel apathetic about voting for democrats?
People are fucking stupid.
They think just because one side uses words that are prettier to them they arent driving the train to the same fuckinh station.
Vote democrate - its the only way is a LIE they tell themselves to avoid having to actually take responsibility.
The only way to get shit to change is to say
NO. I won’t allow this corrupt 2 party system to continue any longer.
I wouldn’t say it’s even necessarily laziness, probably just general apathy with anything remotely political and using Democrat ineffectiveness as an excuse that “nothing will ever change”. Change is slow and takes committed effort, year after year, seemingly nobody has time for that.
If I hadn’t been in a family with a deep interest in politics I’d avoid it, too. People get really mad about it, and I’ve got enough shit going on that I don’t need to watch a nationwide argument every year on top of it.
But thanks to my parents I get to deal with all the political shit and all the normal shit.
Well then where the fuck are they?
A lot are disenfranchised by voter ID laws and weird residency requirements around college campuses. Others just don’t realize the exceptional time we are in because their entire adult life has been marked by encroaching fascism and that seems normal.
I still don’t get how Boomers (and a bit of the Silent Generation) were super left wing in the 60s, but by the 80s or even the late 70s they became super right wing. Not sure if it’s just a USA thing or not, either.
Because they weren’t. There was a vocal minority who was super left wing in the 60s, but the huge majority were as reactionary and conservative as they are today. Hippies weren’t really representative of their generation, they are just the most iconic. Remember that Nixon not only got reelected, but reelected with a landslide.
I don’t know how many people think this way, but I once heard a quote: “If in your youth, you don’t vote left, you don’t have a heart. If when you’re older you don’t vote right, you don’t have a head.”
I don’t think that quote says anything good or true, but if there are a lot of people who think that way, well…
That quote has been changed a bit, but in it’s original form I think it was Churchill.
And the general idea is that as you age your idealism is tempered by practicality, as well as having adapted to the situation and built something of a life of your own, so you’ve gradually moved from the camp of “very little to lose/give up in exchange for all these benefits” and toward the camp of, “you know what, I’m doing okay, I’ve figured out a way to make it work, and I’d rather ‘the system’ just leave me alone at this point, since I’ll be footing the bill for things that aren’t even going to benefit me that much”.
Obviously it’s a lot more complicated than that, but that’s the gist.
It’s also worth remembering that “liberal” and “conservative” meant something different mid century than they do now. Especially with the MAGA influence.
I think the shift in political affiliation had something to do with Regan and the de-regulation of many different business sectors by the republicans in the 80’s and 90’s.
It became ‘easier’ to make money and with lower taxes those people got to keep more of it (at the expense of other Americans). So as these boomers started getting out of college in the late 70’s and 80’s they could now become stock brokers, bankers, real estate brokers, etc instead of a 9 - 5 factory worker. And those were the industries that were getting a lot of lower regulations from republicans so why not vote for their best interest and leave the left wing ideals to someone else.