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They said the same thing about millenials, then they get older, get jobs, and families, and bills, and bitterness, and many look for people to blame and shift right.

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Except millennials have only moved left as they’ve gotten older.

Political leaning is determined by material conditions and culture. The conditions that moved the boomers to the right do not apply to millenials

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Not yet.

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Why would that change? Do you see millennials getting massive wage increases and houses they can buy for 2 pieces of string and some pocket lint? Food prices to drop back to when minimum wage could afford 3-6 big macs?

Why would millennials suddenly start trying to conserve the systems that have working harder than every previous generation while struggling to afford necessities?

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If only there was one very global event currently close to the heart of genZ that might influence their willingness to vote for Kamala Harris, who has openly supported the continuation of said global event at the convention of a PAC dedicated to the continuation of said global event.

Maybe there are other particular issues that affect genZ which the democrats have consistently ignored up until election season.

Maybe the assumption that Democrats are owed votes is the reason they’re having such a hard time with the republicans?

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Great points. Take the non-responsive downvotes with pride.

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Mighty big leap in logic to assume all those youngsters would vote democrat. More Democrat Vs Republican bullshit. Ya know what it would look like if we had “no confidence” as an option? No one other than biden would have actually won presidency in the last 40yrs. That’s what would happen if our voting system was fixed. Not some imaginary blue wave for k Harris. That’s literally opium pipe dreams. Not voting is more indicative of hating the voting options than it is of apathy. They fear the actual will of the people, its why we won’t get a candidate we choose.

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Mighty big leap to assume that whoever made that map hasn’t surveyed young people and taken the observed distribution into account.

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The National Public Opinion Reference Survey (NPORS) published by Pew Research in July shows people under 30 lean Republican over Democrat party identification. That’s the first time the NPORS has reported that fact.

Breaking out those registered to vote, Republicans under 26 beat Democrats by over 29% (63.8%R to 34.3%D). So, not only do young people generally lean Republican, but by petty staggering numbers when looking at those actually registered to vote. Young people are more conservative now than they have been in many decades.

This was pretty big news a month ago. Gen Z might be coming for someone, but it might not be who you think.

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From the NPORS

  • About two-thirds of voters ages 18 to 24 (66%) associate with the Democratic Party, compared with 34% who align with the GOP.
  • There is a similarly large gap in the partisan affiliation of voters ages 25 to 29 (64% are Democrats or lean that way vs. 32% for Republicans).
  • Voters in their 30s also tilt Democratic, though to a lesser extent: 55% are Democrats or Democratic leaners, 42% are Republicans or Republican leaners.

What are you talking about?

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I’m talking about the more recent (and more comprehensive and granular) data from NPORS:

"In April, for example, Pew Research Center released data showing a continuation of the familiar pattern in party identification — more liberal to more conservative as the age of respondents increased.

Earlier this week, though, Pew released the most recent iteration of its big, comprehensive National Public Opinion Reference Survey. The NPORS is a benchmark poll that uses a number of different methodologies to ensure responses, including phone, online contact and direct mail. And, as The Washington Post’s Lenny Bronner found after parsing the data, it found a much more complicated interplay between partisan identification and age."

You can read the numerous articles on the data from NYT or the Washington Post if you’d like.

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What I linked to was from April 9, 2024 and is the most recent data set.

I found this article, which is saying what you’re saying, but if you look at the actual report I just linked it doesn’t line up with any of the claims in the article. The article seems to be reporting on screenshots and tweets, but they’re all wrong? I don’t really know what’s going on here. How about you actually link to something so we can scrutinize it?

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A poll that didn’t count Democratic Socialists for Democrats but counted Nazis for Republicans.

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why not count everyone? Count the commies an the fucking fascist nazis, might as well have a complete roster, you can also do an ideological breakdown as well.

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There was a recent poll about how the differences between 18-29 women and men have been the widest ever, with women become more liberal and men becoming more conservative. Maybe that’s what they were referencing.

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Among voters who are willing to complete a survey for two dollars

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A couple of things:

  • Biden was still the candidate, and a lot of young people were angry with him at the time
  • Younger people are less likely to identify or register with any party (but will still likely vote in one particular direction). So focusing on the results by party identification isn’t that useful.
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Kids might just turn (comparatively) more conservative with age. I think that’s what has been happening for a while

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Kids have turned out to vote Democrat and the promised change did not manifest. Remaining in status quo without progress does not motivate them to vote.

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I think usually people are more keen to vote with age, but not sure if that’s the same with every generation

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Pretty sure the white privilege has dried up for that outside of the most racist places.

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What do you mean?

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I think it’s not quite the case that people get more conservative as they age. It’s that policies and goals throughout society tend to get more progressive with time – as we learn more about our needs and those of others – while personal ideologies tend to crystallize with age. When one generation solves a problem, the next generation starts looking for new problems to tackle. The trouble is that we have to do that while dragging the previous generations, kicking and screaming, towards something more broadly beneficial to society because they think they’ve already got it all figured out. The evolution of our understanding of the world doesn’t end with our generation, no matter how much effort we put in. 🤷

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I was m9re conservative when I was younger because I was an edge lord. Lol.

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I agree, that’s what I meant with “comparatively”.

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