This is one of several reasons I eventually ditched Facebook… People would text me a bunch of bullshit drama on FB messenger while I was at work and couldn’t stop to look at it, then start sending me more messages asking why I wasn’t responding lol
Sorry you posted this 13 minutes ago, and I just responded!
But, there was this person on the internet who was very wrong (not you), and they weren’t responding, and it was pissing me off, big time!!!
Sorry again.
I would hate to be a teenager in this day and age. The amount of drama that gets started over shit like you’re talking about is insane.
As shitty as Facebook is, Snapchat takes that and dials it up to an 11.
I have it on good info from my 16 year old that it is completely unacceptable to:
- Leave a snap (message) unopened for any major length of time. How long is highly subjective.
- Open a snap and not respond.
- Group chat.
- Send a normal message that doesn’t include a cringy photo of half your face.
Kids actually get upset over this stuff.
I’m just like, “I have a phone number. You can call or text it. If I feel like talking to you I’ll answer. If that’s a problem for you, too damn bad.”
Social media was a mistake and a phone camera is the worst invention of our lifetimes.
We destroyed society for absolute shit.
It was inevitable tho , and don’t get this twisted, I’m anti social media. The second internet became public and accessible to literally everyone social media was bound to happen. We are naturally social creatures and want to interact with others. The issue is people are farmed like fucking livestock now. Companies know what they are doing by fostering and facilitating this current form of behavior manipulation.
And it gets worse than that - my partner is an admin at a high school, and the cyber bullying, filming of fights, and the viral TikTok trends that make students just do overall dumb shit at school is insane. Not to mention the students who have IG pics posing with guns that have a vaguely threatening caption. The teachers and admins have to try and monitor all that, if they can. Luckily a lot of the students who see it first do notify someone. It’s just a whole new world. So glad I didn’t have to deal with that shit when I was in school.
That amazes me too. My original point wasn’t to shit on kids. A lot of them don’t know any better and their parents failed them by letting them go skipping into the digital crack houses that are smart phones. Myself included.
But I find it fascinating how much “social” media seems to have increased the level of… uh… Dumbass behavior and the need to record and share every damned thing you do. In fairness, it’s not just kids that do this.
Most of the time, when my kid is having a dumbass moment, her mom and I already have a pretty good idea that something is up. We are ALWAYS able to confirm it with pictures or videos because these kids seem incapable of doing stupid shit without recording it for posterity.
It always goes something like this:
Me: “Were you drinking at [random friends] house?”
Her: “No. I wouldn’t do that.”
Me: “Oh. Really?” Plays video of my child falling down drunk
Me: “That’s so weird. [Random friend] has another friend that looks exactly like you.”
Her: “Whoops.”
Me: “Yeah. Whoops.”
Don’t get me wrong. Teenager me made plenty of stupid decisions and the few camera phones floating around during my high school years weren’t good for much. But there was no way in hell I would have let someone take pictures of me doing something that I knew I would have gotten in trouble for. Because sure as shit that photographic evidence would somehow have made it’s way to my parents.
groupchat is unacceptable
So I’m in my really early 20s so i like to think i still able to relate to the youngings and hip youth but man thats just so odd to me
Tbf me and my friends have always been the weird kids so maybe its that but almost all my communication is either in a discord group chat with my irl buddies and some of their buddies, or a very small server that’s the same plus some of my online buddies.
On the note of being weird I never really got social media like instagram and stuff as I either wanna “follow” topics and following people I don’t know feels odd.
I do see the appeal tho as my sister is super into sports so following some of the big names that might move her forward makes sense to me
I had a point in here at one point but this just turned into a ramble
I either wanna “follow” topics and following people I don’t know feels odd.
Or at the very least just everything a particular person has to say about a particular topic, not about everything in their life (e.g. some author I like on the topic covered by their books, some programmer on their project,…).
hi, teenager here, yeah it sucks ass and i lost a lot of friendships over simple petty shit that didn’t matter
they were sensitive and i guess i grew up a bit differently
I’m a 28 years old asocial individual.
One girl (kinda same age) got highly irritated over me answering 20 minutes after seeing her message (wet hands, rain), and told not to text her again after me being reluctant to answer something romantic with sore throat, food poisoning and sleep deprivation at the same time.
(TBH, I do get a bit nervous when people don’t answer me in half an hour or so, but! I’m always conscious of this simply being my own anxiety, not something they are communicating.)
What it feels like: https://youtu.be/JR8Q-afz170
This is why I told my family to create a new group chat without me. Plus, it would go off all fuckin day long, when I was in meetings at work, or trying to write code. Group chat should be limited to things that affect the entire group, like a family reunion or something.
I muted most of my phone and computer notifications. I won’t respond immediately to messages. If you really need me at this moment, call me. You have my number.
Funny thing is that Teams only lets me block all notifications and not just the message notifications. So as a result, I regularly miss a teams call because I ain’t dealing with that message notification bullshit.
In my experience, it’s normal for people to just never respond to emails.
I hate emails. If you aren’t using instant messaging for fast communications you are too old to be working in tech.
Need something fast? Slack, teams, whatever crap else is out there.
Want me to sleep on it for 2-3 days? Email.
My work email is so full of crap from internal company emails.
I say pick the medium that’s going to work best for your situation and use it. Doesn’t matter what it is if it works. What I really hate is duplication. Having to send one email to one group, then another email with a special attachment with the SAME INFORMATION to another. Also sending an email out with current update information, and then getting people who I just emailed call me on the phone: “I saw your email, is that estimate accurate?” YESSS! Fuck.
I work with a guy who is too old for tech…he doesn’t like sending Teams messages…nor does he like emails. He calls. He calls without warning to ask things like “hey are there two wires at this location?” that can always be answered by looking at the damn wiring diagram i provided.
Carrying a laptop is too hard and opening a PDF on your phone is even harder, I guess. Better call the engineer to make it his problem
Do what I do. Tell them to hold on while I look it up. Put the phone down for 10 mins. Then after 10 minutes tell them the answer. Make it longer and longer until they bug someone else.
Or hold his hand through looking at the reference material. The first time, be very nice about it, being sure to conceal any impatience. As time goes on, hint more and more that he should know how to RTFM.
Exactly. My work email is like 95% BS corporate emails, and I just don’t check it anymore. I felt bad for the first few months, but there were zero repercussions because actual communication happens on Slack or we mention it in team meetings. Email exists to be searched or to be referenced in another chat system (e.g. hey, I sent you an email with those attachments, forward it as needed).
My work email is like 95% BS corporate emails,
Skill issue.
Make rules and folders lmao.
Why? I could spend my time doing that, or I could just do my job. I almost never need to actually look at my work email for my job, so why bother?
I felt bad as well but I don’t anymore. At this point if you want a prompt response and you choose email that’s on you. Specially if we’re 10-20 steps from each other in the office.
Exactly. We work in-office 2x/week, and we’re an open plan office. If it can wait a couple days, I’ll be in anyway, so why send an email?
We have Slack channels for announcements for various groups, and in-person for anything that needs a response right now. Email is almost never the right medium.
If you aren’t using instant messaging for fast communications you are too old to be working in tech.
The meme is about this exact mentality. Fuck instant messaging.
And good luck searching teams, slack, whatever crap that is out there after 6 weeks or so. Or after parent company rebrands/migrates it to something else.
E-mail is the best modern day communication platform. It’s agnostic about your OS, client, or service provider. It’s not a fucking walled garden where both parties need to have exact same setup to communicate. I can have Thunderbird client working with Gmail and I can send and receive e-mails from people who use neither.
You’re just clueless about using it.
Yeah count me among the “too old” crowd because I like email. If I haven’t met you in person and personally given you my phone number, I don’t want you texting me. Ever. For any reason. At any time. If a company texts me, I think less of them and will search for an alternative the next time. 98% of the time I get a phone call I let it go to voicemail.
If you want me to see something, email it. With smartphones it takes a literally identical amount of effort to read an email as it does to read a text, with the added benefits that email was designed to send more than 12 characters at a time, can be searched, and can have attachments added to it.
It’s also extremely easy to keep your inbox from overflowing with crap. Just don’t sign up for the crap in the first place, and when you get an unsolicited email, unsubscribe and/or mark as spam. That does require the bare minimum of computer literacy, which appears to have died out. In a few years the technologically illiterate will say they don’t read their texts anymore since they’re overflowing with spam that they can’t be arsed to avoid signing up for.
I’m not going to IM someone outside my organization with Teams. F that. Read the freaking e-mail and reply. If you don’t answer timely, and I need an answer, I’ll call if possible, otherwise escalate.
“After careful consideration of your proposal, I will not be attending lunch with you last Friday.”
So basically a business week to respond to everything
edit: stop replying to this to tell me I’m a monster for expecting email to be a thing. I honestly don’t care, and all you’re doing is telling me you have a weird gen z hangup about email, and that you are a problem at your workplace and that you frustrate your coworkers.
Right!? What kind of email correspondence is this person engaged in that takes them 4 days to process and reply to?
I’d be interested to see their timeline for other forms of communication.
That’s what I am thinking. There are some things that make sense to take while but it seems weird to me to ask for a semi-blank check like this. I have coworkers that are awful at responding (weeks oftentimes) and it’s super frustrating.
If you need a fast response, don’t use email. In general, here’s my order of urgency and expected time to resolution:
- physically meet w/ them or phone call - <1 hr
- IM/SMS/etc - <1 day
- meeting invitation - by the meeting time
- physical mail/note on their desk - 1-2 weeks
- email - <1 month, but probably <1 week
- create a “ticket” - ??
I try to go as far down that list as possible, but no further.
If you’re getting frustrated, it means you’re probably going too far down that list.
Yeah, it’s just being inconsiderate wrapped up in pseudo-philosophical bullshit. Read the email, gather your thoughts for a minute, type a five minute response. If you’re making email more complex than that without a really good reason, take some lessons or something. One of my most useful courses in college had a business email section.
Thank you! God some of the people replying to me here need to listen to you. Yeah, email isn’t complicated! Like at all.
If you fire off a email and youre pissed that they’re not responding on YOUR time, thats a YOU problem.
It’s not about it being complicated. It’s about knowing boundaries.
It really depends on the type of email. Some questions can be answered quite quickly, others are just task assignments in disguise, often for tasks that are really the sending person’s responsibility to research on their own.
Nah.
Do you drop everything to respond to everybody?
Seems miserable to be at everyone’s whim and you should reconsider.
Obviously no. I’ve been in an environment where I was expected to be breaking my concentration to check my email every 15 minutes and, yes, it was miserable. But that is not what this email signature is suggesting. Four days of silence is ridiculous.
I usually just scan through my email for anything important while switching tasks. If there’s something time sensitive or trivial, respond immediately. Otherwise, I put a response on my to do list and get back to them usually later that day. Gmail also has a feature to “snooze” an email to show up at a later time. And of course email filtering helps keep the clutter down.
