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Least bias?

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This bot needs banned. The site is garbage. Almost every time I see it it’s heavily downvoted. Biased spam.

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It’s not really a mandate so there’s no revolt. As per The Friendly Atheist blog and podcast, this superintendent dumbfuck has no authority to enforce what he said. School officials may be saying fuck that, but it’s not a revolt when he made a completely empty statement.

The first to push back happened last month. The superintendent’s office, when asked by press, replied: “Oh yes they will.” With no language about how they would make that happen.

Fuck this christofascist, but this story / headline is bullshit. (I didn’t read the story because I already know that the headline doesn’t match reality thanks to TFA.)

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/oklahoma-superintendent-rejects-bibles

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/more-oklahoma-school-districts-are

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It is a revolt for districts have to reject guidance from a superintendent en masse. That’s not a normal way for an education system to be run. So it’s not bullshit; you just are a bit too strict with your semantics, but that’s your issue.

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A guy with no authority to mandate teaching the bible mandated teaching the bible. Everyone said haha. That’s not a revolt.

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What!? There are no pedants on the Internet! How dare you

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Per Dan Dennett, I can get behind teaching religion.

I’m reasonably confident that’s not what the OK legislature meant to have happen, but it’s the only constitutional way to do this. I think.

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I had a religion class in my public high school. It was an elective and they covered all the major religions since the beginning of written history. I think they started with Zoroastrianism. It was a pretty interesting class. However, don’t think even a class like that should be mandatory.

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I think it’s unfortunate to constrain it to written history. Linking the commonalities between the proto-Indo-European religions like the Germanic, Greek, Persian and early Hindu traditions and just how they interacted with things from the semitic and then Buddhism to taoism and neo-Confuciusism which also influenced back West.

The history of religion is incredibly convoluted but really teaching how syncretized religion is would be a great value. Not to Christian nationalists of course.

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I agree generally on not making it mandatory.

That said, I wish more people were exposed to other forms of thought and this would help. To me, an elective seems fair.

I dunno that I’d be sad about philosophy and world views (with religion being embedded) as some kind of civics class that enhances one’s high school diploma.

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To do “this”, meaning what?

The goal is to create a Christian state…

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This = teach any aspect of Christianity.

The constitution won’t allow favorable treatment, so if they want the Bible, they get Satanism too.

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Can we create one in the middle east, and just move all of its followers over there?

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Walters’s guidance, which follows a June announcement of the mandatory biblical curricula for grades 5 through 12, says that lessons on the Christian text should emphasize its historical context, literary significance and artistic and musical influence. The guidance also says a physical copy of the book should be in every classroom, along with copies of the Ten Commandments, the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

What gets me is that the last ten years has been this myopic fixation on standardized exams. Laser focus on teachers getting kids ready for the next round of grueling high stakes exams. No time for experimentation or labs or school trips. No time for art or music or athletics. Just exams. All the time. Forever.

Now we’ve got these far right demagogues insisting everything needs Christian pastiche. So I have to wonder… will the Pearson Exams be rewritten to grade kids on Bible Literacy? Is this just bonus material kids are expected to absorb on top of their regular course load (in a state that can’t afford a five day school week for 55 of its schools)? Or is this literally just window dressing - changing out my school mascot for the Fightin’ Jesuses?

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That is the thing, they won’t! Teachers that don’t follow the Bible guidance will be fired. Those that do will have their students fail.

The end result will be “the schools are failing and parents want to put their children in christan schools, so let’s take the best students out of failing public schools … and now they are failing more! Time to totally abandon public education.”

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a genious man once said:

“they should(!) teach them the bible !! … and then also point out precisely where and how the catholic church evilish manipulated some parts to enpower them to abuse even more where the bible really told people how to see through their lies to get rid of such demonic abusers.”

or so i’ve heared once long ago.

i think this is called “to howl with the wolfes” ;o) so why revolt when acting in 100% conformity solves the root problem even better ?

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I agree. Plus all the socialist bits should be highlighted.

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Oklahoma parents are going to go apeshit if their kids read the Sermon on the Mount.

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And all the bits about gays. Although there’ll be no need for the highlighter on that one.

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