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Least bias?

The Hill?

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This bot needs banned. The site is garbage. Almost every time I see it it’s heavily downvoted. Biased spam.

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OK politicians sure do like wasting taxpayer dollars on unwinnable court cases.

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Its an investment 💀

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Now that the Lemon case is overturned, who knows just how unwinnable the superintendent’s case is.

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unwinnable court cases.

Under any other Supreme Court regime, I’d agree with this.

But under this Supreme Court…remember that a lot of these previously-unwinnable cases are being brought up at the urging of Clarence Thomas and others on the court who have openly said they’d like to “revisit” these cases. We are talking about a court who has used foreign countries’ laws, and medieval history to justify their rulings, and there’s no reason to believe they won’t do it again. Remember, they just got finished conjuring up the idea of near-absolute Presidential immunity out of thin air.

The case is definitely not unwinnable.

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Alito and Thomas should be removed from the supreme Court, Thomas’s wife is a traitor and you’re judged by the company you keep and Alito is either a treasonous coward and blamed his treasonous wife, or he also keeps company with traitors. They have no right to be on the court and their decisions specifically should be vacated.

Edit: not to mention all of the ethics violations.

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The Constitution is clear that keep their position in good behavior. The vast majority of people can see that accepting bribes is bad behavior. The question is who goes about removing justices? IIRC that isn’t specifically laid out.

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I guess you would comply with that if you were to compare the bible to other religious scriptures everytime it is talked about and show how they influenced society. I don’t see why this should be not allowed.

Edit: This was meant in a malicious compliance kind of way. In no way I am saying that this is a great law.

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You should read the article. They already teach about the Bible in such contexts. This directive would require every classroom to have a copy of the Bible and find ways to integrate it into their lesson plans, whether it was relevant or not

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Malicious compliance mode activated: hey kids, today we’re learning about cults! Get out your Bibles!

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Malicious compliance is likely to get your license suspended or revoked though.

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Then he made the sea of cast metal. It was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference.

  • 1 Kings 7:23

Pi is 3, not 3.1415… Oklahoma cannot teach geometry anymore

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In the article it does not say that the bible has to be portrayed positively so I guess you could look for examples of how Christians misuse what is written to justify horrible actions. There are probably also enough examples of how current (repulican) politicians are actively acting in anti christian ways while claiming to be following god.

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If it has any place in public education it’d be alongside other mythology lessons. It’s absolutely not being taught that way under these rules.

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It is already being taught along other myths in the context of their impacts on society without teaching them one was correct. This law was changing that to requiring indoctrination.

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In college I took a 100-level western ancient literature course that examined the origins of the text and sources of the bible. Simple facts did fantastic work of dismantling the ‘infallibility’ of the work. Can’t imagine a faster way to make a generation of atheists.

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Because in the goddamn US Constitution it makes a point about separation of church and state. Also what if there’s someone who doesn’t believe in your version of God or if the invisible sky wizard isn’t real.l, you intolerant fool.

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I’m atheist as hell bud. I’m saying any religion, in my opinion, is mythology at best. I was absolutely taught mythology in world history in 7th/8th grade and loved it. Didn’t make me start praying to Zeus outside of when I drop a dumbbell on my foot.

Quick edit, still learning my UI for kbin and realize you weren’t replying to me… I think. I agree “religion” shouldn’t be taught in school, except as mythology.

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I’d be willing to teach the Bible:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov’s_Guide_to_the_Bible

Cliff’s Notes:

https://archive.org/details/kensguidetobible00kens/mode/1up

“Ok kids, here’s everything the Bible gets wrong!”

Republicans: “Wait, not like that…”

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Or, only teach the rape and incest. In elementary schools.

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Teachers would just be fired and replaced with TVs playing “The Greatest Adventure: Stories from the Bible” cartoons on a loop.

That’s what’s so insidious about the Christianization of public education. It is, at it’s heart, an extension of the privatization movement. Find schools that resist and destroy them, so you can justify cutting your overall education budget by claiming you’re defeating Woke Leftist Teachers.

Even schools that do faithfully comply will inevitably get harassed and defunded. Because the goal isn’t to teach the Bible, it is to loot the budget.

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The goal is also to keep the population ignorant so they keep voting against their best interests

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Some of the most “ignorant” Americans became fixtures of the late 19th/early 20th century labor movement.

Public education is about building a shared culture and academic understanding of the world. That can be one rooted in secular scientific reason, Christian mythology, or fascist bigotry. But the important thing (from a government level) is that it’s a consensus capable of being reproduced from generation to generation.

The anti-Communism of the 50s/60s that took place alongside the foundation of the modern higher education system was instrumental win building the Reaganite consensus that won the Cold War.

But if American plutocrats are just going to tear the wiring out of the walls and sell it for scrap, there’s no knowing what kind of consensus will form in the wake of educational collapse.

Maybe we get New American Communism. Maybe we get an elite informed entirely by ads on TikTok and Facebook. Maybe an Islamic Renaissance as the Saudis / UAE simply buy us out with our own Petro dollars. Maybe GenA and B go back to the Christian church.

Idk, but it appears Oklahoma State government is giving up the reins and making it someone else’s problem.

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