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Jewish =/= zionist

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True. At the same time, I’ve seen some outspoken Zionists suddenly get very upset when people remember who they are.

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“Progressive Catholic” talk about an oxymoron, emphasis on the moron…

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Quick name one mass murder or genocide in the name of atheism.

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Atheism killed God. Who will wipe this blood off us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGDH3meSPyk

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This is a semantic game. The honest question is that does becoming more secular make one more moral? I’ve never seen anybody make the case for that (though plenty love to imply it w/o evidence).

Can we agree that Israel is more secular than her neighbors? Is Israel’s government or people more benevolent? It’s a trope that Muslims are violent, but compared to just half a century of secular Europe’s World Wars, Islam is a blameless kitten.

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I mean … I guess you could consider the planned extermination of Nepalese culture and faith or the concentration camps full of Uyghurs for “re-education” an attempt at genocide if you wanted to use the term very liberally?

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Assuming 100% accuracy of the allegations, are these done in the name of atheism?

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How do you do something “in the name of Atheism”? You are being pedantic. These were/are crusades against the culture and faith of a different people. One could argue that they are not “genocides” and it needn’t even be in bad faith. Your “assuming 100% accuracy”-statement on the other hand disgusts me, no offense intended. People are suffering, at least aknowledge the fact.

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You’re being dishonest. The definition of the words rules out the undesirable conclusion. People can’t do anything in the name of atheism.

If “Religion poisons everything” then removing the poison should rehabilitate the patient, no? So please demonstrate that secular societies are more benevolent than religious ones. Show me that those who invented industrial murder are morally superior to ad-hoc killers.

Did you know that the word genocide was coined to describe the actions of a government who was actively trying to secularize?

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Well you could argue they aren’t just like you can argue that religious genocides aren’t about religion but really about money and power.

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So many people in this thread proving the point.

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is judging people based on what others have done not the whole point of Catholicism?

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Matthew 7:3: “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

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is judging people based on what others have done not the whole point of Catholicism all Christianity?

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Oh some people are real mad. How dare you say all Christianity? /s

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There’s also buying forgiveness and inquisitioning.

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And there’s covering up mass rape of children.

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