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Most 2a people want to shoot people without consequence, not defend anyone.

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the ammosexuals want to, they fantasize about it all the time.

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Mate, Ive never wanted a gun for more than pew pew at the range. However, we are at the point where our 2a right to defend ourselves is actually relevant.

There are masked, plainclothes officers abducting people off the street. How do I know that they are within their legal rights?

Trump is approving breaking into peoples houses without a warrant. How do I know they have a legal right to do so?

I’m not trigger happy. If you show me a signed warrant and identify yourself so that I can verify who you are, we got no problems. Otherwise, how do I know you are who you say you are?

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Trump is approving breaking into peoples houses without a warrant. How do I know they have a legal right to do so?

That’s simple. They don’t, ever. Unless the 4th amendment has been repealed, all of these raids are illegal.

That’s not going to stop you from being shot or prosecuted if you defend yourself, though.

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The agents had a search warrant for the home

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Law enforcement officers have a duty of care. If they execute a no knock warrant at an address that is no longer valid and get shot in the process it is likely there would be no criminal culpability for the homeowner if it’s in a castle doctrine state.

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No, they had a writ from DHS it was not a valid warrant.

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Are those even legit anymore? Any idiot judge (or DOGE script kiddie pretending to be one) can sign one.

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22 points

if the law is on their side, why are they wearing masks?

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15 points

I was thinking of a custom “Free Bullets with Every Forced Entry” sign.

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They had military grade weapons .

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While defending yourself in a no knock situation could be warranted, we can’t pretend that ICE wouldn’t have then murdered the whole family. You might be able to find a sympathetic judge and jury but that’s not worth much when you and / or people you care about are dead.

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That’s assuming they’ll be left in peace after the illegal gestapo raid. Who’s to say that said gestapo’s not going to put them in a truck and send him to a concentration camp in El Salvador. People have no choice but to defend themselves as if ice is at your door they’re going to kill you. Because that’s the implication

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Anyone tries invading my home without a warrant is going to get what they deserve.

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I mean… they claimed they had a warrant. But who the hell knows. They seem to be happy to lie about that lately. And since they show up when everyone’s in bed and bash the door in before you can even respond, how would you know?

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Likely they had an administrative warrant that doesn’t allow for a search like a judical warrant does.

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2 points

When you check their bodies if you have a gun handy…

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in my case both the front and the back door have two doors with deadbolts and stairs to climb so you’re going to be pretty loud before you get to me and I’m going to be ready with a shotgun… but yeah I’d rather it didn’t happen.

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Lesson: Before you move into a new rental, find out who was there before and how long it’s been empty. I can see this situation happening a lot as more targeted people move to avoid being found, and unknowing people move into the vacated rental unit.

Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”

“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”

As for Marissa’s phones, electronics, and cash, they have no idea which agency has those belongings or how to get those items back.

They’re totally fucked. Each agency that was there denies responsibility and refers them to the next, which does the same.

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No, fuck that. You can’t reasonably expect to spend 300 hours a year doing research in all manner of different matters to make sure they accidentally don’t end up getting rocked by the cops. How about the cops do some fucking research before they yeet a flashbang in with a baby and deny responsibility?

This whole situation is a “should never happen” that, in a just world, would at least cost someone their job.

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Gonna have to replace all those electronics too, even if they’re given back.

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We’re totally fucked. This could happen to any one of us.

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132 points

Trump’s brown shirts terrorizing Americans.

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I’m such a nerd I read this as Brown Coats and thought “why would they be terrorizing anyone?”

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2 points

More of an Alliance thing, really.

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75 points

Trump’s brown shirts terrorizing minors in their underwear.

I’m disgusted but I’m not surprised.

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36 points

Probably high fived each other back at the station.

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16 points

Yes but is your skin a bit too dark? Yes? Then deported

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I’m gonna get serious flak for saying this, but “the Irish aren’t white.” Not to MAGA. Neither are the Italians, nor the Greeks, nor the Polish. The Brits are out, we overthrew them in 1776. We beat the Germans in 1945, and the Ruskies in 1992.

You’re Catholic? You’re not welcome. You live north of Richmond? Northern Aggressor. You live in one of the 21 states with a coastline? Coastal Elitist.

It’s not “being white isn’t enough anymore,” it’s “nothing is white enough anymore.” They will find any part of your identity to discredit and ruin. And if they can’t, they’ll make one up, until they finally consume themselves.

Get ready for the Coastal Elitist North Aggressors of Colorado, the Johnsons.

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