Vice President Kamala Harris gave the public its first real look into her nascent presidential campaign with a stop at her organization’s headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware on Monday night.

Harris’ first applause line came when she discussed her background as California attorney general and as a courtroom prosecutor.

“In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds,” she said, earning cackles while she beamed, clearly enjoying the joke. “Predators who abused women. Fraudsters who ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump’s type.”

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she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he’s ever done, starting from trump “university” all the way up to the catastrophic covid response, the ukraine phone calls, the stolen documents, and on and on.

she needs to dial it up to 11 and keep it there. it’s time to throw out this “let’s take the high road” attitude that’s accomplished exactly jack fucking shit over the last too many decades

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she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he’s ever done

There isn’t enough hours left until election day to list all of it.

Also, maybe she should try another tactic than the one that BARELY worked for her predecessor the last time around playing on the much easier “people are experiencing how awful Trump is as president RIGHT NOW” difficulty level.

If she wants to win and win big (which is the only outcome that isn’t humiliating and dangerous for democracy), she needs more than “Trump bad”. She’s going to need some “Kamala good” to energize the base.

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54 points

I’m all for it. Give me something to look forward to, not something to run from, for once this decade

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11 points

Fear drives people to the polls though. It’s kinda sad but true. So there needs to be a mix.

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8 points

HOPE worked pretty well for Obama

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obama didn’t win because of “obama good” messaging, he won because people hated bush enough that the got off their ass to vote. similarly, it wasn’t “biden good” messaging that made him win.

when more people vote, dems win. that’s why republicans are desperately trying to disenfranchise, gerrymander, and otherwise suppress all the votes they can.

“kamala good” campaigning will accomplish nothing. she needs to make the people who are sitting on their ass angry enough to get up and vote. not FOR her, but AGAINST trump

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obama didn’t win because of “obama good” messaging, he won because people hated bush enough that the got off their ass to vote

Either your knowledge of history is bogus, or you’re too young to have experienced the 08 election between Obama and McCain. Obama didn’t win ‘because people hated bush’, he won because he ran on the (now obviously bogus and intentionally vague) message of hope and change.

Obama literally won based on his messaging, so I hope no one listens to you on this matter.

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People voted for Obama because they believed in change. Democrats can’t just win by making people hate their opponents. Democrats would have no agenda if all it took was making people hate their opponents.

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Obama is maybe the best example of making a campaign about you and giving people a reason to believe in you.

Not everyone cannot pull it off like he can though and Kamala is no Obama.

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Every fucking time he opens his mouth, she should interrupt him with “prove it”. Like, he says the sky is blue? Fucking prove it.

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37 points

She got off to a good start already.

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“Biden may have accidentally called Zelenskyy Putin. At an open meeting, but Trump likely calls Putin ‘boss’ in hidden ones”

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5 points

I think you meant “daddy.”

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I doubt she wants to spend 12 hours listing off Trump’s shitty behavior and crimes. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

And anyone who doesn’t know about what a piece of shit he is by now probably won’t listen to it anyways.

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…listing off Trump’s shitty behavior and crimes.

New filibuster strategy just dropped.

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Naw, she’ll just rattle it off like a summary of charges: “115 counts of lying directly to the public, 14 counts of ignoring the CDC during a pandemic, …” Short, pithy, with all the bite of a courtroom prosecution.

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16 points

I’m waiting for the “abortions after birth” challenge to the lying coward treasonous pedophile rapist.

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Sometimes Biden’s mental decline wasn’t capable of challenging

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13 points

There’s no low road here. That dude’s in a submarine.

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6 points

Pity it’s not the Titan

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12 points

Hell yeah. I like to say that when they go low, kick them while they’re down there!

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10 points

She needs all 8 years just to finish the list.

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And let’s jump to the debate. I want to watch her turn him upside down and use his head as a mop.

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she needs to specifically call out every single bullshit thing he’s ever done

The problem there is that there are so bloody many valid things to call him out on that it just turns into white noise if you just hit on every single one of them, and the message just becomes “Trump is a shitty person and a shitty president,” which has been said a million times already. Focusing in on high-profile offenses is a good way to fix specific examples in the public consciousness.

I’d also suggest something like “The Daily Trump ScumLog.” A video series where every day a new example of Trump being shitty gets called out in however much detail the medium allows. Every week, the spiciest gets edited for time and made into a commercial for wider broadcast. This would make it easier to focus in on specific examples, while still emphasizing that the list is Vast.

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“The Daily Trump ScumLog.” A video series where every day a new example of Trump being shitty gets called out

i dont’ listen to podcasts or watch vid series or any of that, but i would subscribe and donate to that one in a heartbeat

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It’s just impossible. It would take a small army of staff to compile his catalogue of lies, and Harris doesn’t have the time to recite it. What she needs to do is grab him by the pussy. Drive home that he is a felon, a rapist, and that he himself is willingly raped by Putin, that he is owned by bitches and he is a bitch. She needs to leverage her biography as a black woman to utterly humiliate him. To deeply wound him. To haunt him with the eventuality of his incarceration and inevitable end as a failure.

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Opens Fire On Trump

Glad to see they didn’t shy away from using this terminology, considering recent events.

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Gives Trump An Ear Full

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7 points

Some double entendre there. Love it.

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Draws Blood By Calling Out Trump’s Criminal History

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Shoots Trump with a M1911

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10 points

sounds deliberate honestly

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95 points

She said building up the middle class would be a defining goal of her presidency,

Go on Kamala, you are making me hope you might be better than just “not trump.” Let’s hear some details that will be resistant to the 1% and their greed and get prices under control.

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What about the working poor? That’s a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

When it comes to economic reform (rather than compression, according to that show with the hand job calculations), from the bottom up is many times more effective than the middle out shit the Dems keep trying.

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What about the working poor? That’s a much larger group that is much more need of policy changes.

Um, OK. I’m on board. Are we supposed to argue now?

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Nah, I’m good

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Not OP, but good on you two.

Id argue middle class are now also the working poor

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The problem is that the overwhelming majority of the working poor in America consider themselves “middle class”. So that’s how you have to direct your message if you want it to reach the most people.

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Getting low income people to the polls is a big part of this. If a particular group does not vote, then politicians have no incentive to care about them.

https://nlihc.org/resource/new-census-data-reveal-voter-turnout-disparities-2022-midterm-elections

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If a particular group does not vote, then politicians have no incentive to care about them.

Other way around: if a politician doesn’t care about you and people like you, you have little incentive to care about them beyond avoiding a greater evil.

It’s the job of a politician to earn votes, not the job of voters to enable complacency and corruption.

While it’s of course best when everyone votes and I’ve never missed a chance myself, I can kinda understand why a lot of people don’t feel up for waiting in line for hours just to cast a vote for “not the complete monster”

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I would argue that building up the middle class involves uplifting the working poor class, you gotta get those middle class people from somewhere.

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Yeah. This is getting me slightly excited again. I’m an independent voter and have never voted Democrat but I may just well do that this time. Couldn’t stomach Biden but she seems to actually know what the hell she is talking about. Please go after Congressional term limits, tax the crap out of the rich, and reform lobbying with solid game plans. Talk is cheap.

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I have a lot of concern about how progressive she will actually be - her pre-VP track record doesn’t seem great to me, but she’s not Trump and I really hope I can feel OK about voting for her second term. She gets my vote this time because Trump, but if she’s going to sprint right back to 2016-era corporatist Democrat behavior then all we’ve done is delay the inevitable rightward creep and continue to enable rampant corporate greed.

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Her voting record in the Senate is actually super progressive. I don’t think there’s much to worry about there.

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Honestly, this is the kind of down-in-the-dirt campaigning I had hoped to see from Hillary back in 2016 before she tied an apron on and tried to convince everyone she was a sweet little motherly person. You can’t be sweet and kind with someone like Trump. You need to gather up the shit he’s piling up around the place and drown his ass in it.

So if Kamala is gonna bring the pain, I’m here for it. Trump needs to be beaten bloody on the pulpit. Because bullies can never handle being bullied themselves. Especially ones as thin skinned and stupid as Trump is.

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To be fair to Clinton, she did do some pain. Remember when she called many of the people who supported Trump, “deplorables”. This riled up America as if she was going too far with describing them this way. Here we are almost a decade later, and we are starting to realize that she was right.

The political landscape is far different now than it was when it was Hilary vs. Trump. Trump has done his four years, and we have now seen the damage he and his constituents have done. We see now that the republican party watched Handmaid’s Tale and agreed with the fictional government in that story. There is no hiding how deplorable some of these folks are especially with the publishing of Project 2025.

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Yeah this is another example of how fucking stupid she was during that campaign. She attacked his supporters instead of him directly. The person who should have been the brunt of every single attack she could muster should have been Trump and only Trump. Instead she riled up his base and convinced a bunch of independents that she was an asshole, which she actually is but she kept unleashing her assholiness on the wrong people.

I remember watching one of the more freeform debates with her and Trump and I kept waiting for her to wreck his ass and she kept acting like some kind of stupid nicey nice person (that she most definitely isn’t). I was like, “What the fuck? Where’s the dragon lady I bought tickets to see eat Trump for lunch???”

And then as if that wasn’t all stupid as fuck, after the campaign failed and Trump got elected as president, she fucking goes out and starts blaming all the fucking left wing voters and Berniecrats for “not voting enough” even though it was her dumbass fault she lost the election. I’m a fucking Bernie voter and I pointlessly cast a ballot for her dumb ass.

So yeah fuck Hillary eternally. I hope she spits in her fucking corn flakes when Kamala wins and becomes the first woman president.

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I am frustrated that we didn’t get to pick our candidate in the primaries, I don’t know if Harris is my style. She might be.

But God damn I am looking forward to her going head to head with Trump. She is sharp as hell on her feet.

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I was not a harris booster previously but the biggest complaint I have about her, “Copmala” is actually a significant strength in this election. Then I started reading into her voting record. Combine that with her being a woman in the post roe v wade world, and a woman of color against the most xenophobic party that any of us have experienced and I think she’s EXACTLY what we need.

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The American public has swung back towards more moderate policing. Progressive approaches were rebuked in the Pacific North West. It’s absolutely a strength right now

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I am really really liking her. A lot. She is giving me rockstar vibes like Obama.

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