“That being said, I am happy to give up my right to vote as a trade for a significantly better quality of life. It’s cleaner, it’s safer. There’s more opportunity in mobility,” she said.
“There’s no one on this planet who could be that bad of a person that we need to assassinate just to keep them out of the presidency,” Christian said. “How radical the American culture and society is getting in its entirety is making me go, ‘I really need to get out of here.’”
Christian and Salah said they won’t be voting, and Do said she is still learning about the process for voting abroad right now.
“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”
Jesus fucking Christ.
Ya, that’s rough. That feels like a very immature take. The two parties are not the same, voting does matter, and I’d even argue that there are people so awful that assassination does make sense but I’m happy Trump survived because I think the Republican party would have been stronger without him.
I left the US, I’m between a millennial and gen z, and I left explicitly because I was worried about the future of the US and because moving abroad is akin to time traveling 20 years into the future. I have healthcare now, I live in a walkable city with great public transit, the crime rates are lower (although most places in the US aren’t super violent, the probability of getting murdered goes way down when you leave), I have 6 weeks vacation, essentially unlimited sick time, and I’m not allowed to work overtime.
Both parties are not the same but if Democrats won in a landslide in every single election both state and federal in every chamber and every seat, how many years would it take to achieve all of those same things. I have no doubt these policies would happen with the right people in office, with radical change to the party they could even happen quickly and I believe it’s what half the people want. But the two other outcomes are 50/50 with the parties and little gets done in a timely manner and worse the corrupt judges continue to error the system, or the Republicans win one big election just one more time and project 2025 starts getting a percent complete tracker and we slide back into the dark ages.
So I left. I believe if things go bad in the US historians will look at Trump’s first victory as a period of brain drain from the country. But that’s my two cents to go with this article.
Did you renounce your citizenship, or are you paying taxes and able to vote by mail?
I am paying taxes and am able to vote, but because I make less than the required amount my taxes are essentially zero to the US because we have joint tax agreements between the two countries.
I don’t know if I’ll renounce after earning German citizenship or not but the exit tax is something I have to consider.
“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”
Anyone who thinks only American politics are a joke is naive af, and needs to read more non-American news or history
As someone who personally knows someone like this, these people are the least knowledgeable about the outside world. They barely consume U.S. news, let alone international news. They don’t know the politics of the green grass they’re dreaming of, they don’t want to learn another language, they don’t even really want foreign jobs. They want a remote job in the U.S. so they can abuse the weaker economies abroad.
It’s just such an incredible amount of ignorance and cowardice to me. As if the U.S. falling completely to fascism wouldn’t impact them at all if they can simply walk away.
Come to Finland, we are the happiest country, and we need more people.
Summer is full of mosquitoes and in winter you don’t see sun at all.
Language is hard but English is well spoken. This adds complexity to getting citizenship, but you can get permanent residency by working here for five years, unless our xenophobic party doesn’t increase that to eight years.
We are quiet people unless we are drunk.
Password in the border is pronouncing Sauna correctly (sau - na, not like soona, unless you are from Savo, where it is pronounced saana).
Edit: Here is a government site that lists jobs that you can apply as foreigners and move here with visa: https://www.workinfinland.com/en/
Y’all don’t want us. Hard as f to move there unless you have specialized experience
Our population is at aging point were the large age groups are going to retire. If you can hold a wrench or use a computer, there is a work for you here.
Pay is of course 1/2 or 1/3 what it is in US, but because healthcare and education is totally free, it is pretty much the same.
Easiest way is to find a company that hires you first, because they can apply you for a working visa.
Here is a government site that list available jobs for foreigners: https://www.workinfinland.com/en/
There are open jobs like for chefs, electricians, nurses, coders, Santa’s Elf (really, look it up) etc
I understand you think that but I literally was applying for jobs for like 6 months early this year. Not even a single response. I’m a decent data engineer with like 4 years of solid experience and a graduate degree. Could’ve just been my fault not applying to the right places though for sure. Anyway thanks for that link!
The first page of the jobs site linked literally has “restaurant worker”. What the hell DOESN’T count as specialized experience to you? Ability to breathe?
Quick question! I live in a town in the US that was heavily settled by Finnish people. Meaning saunas are kinda normal for the area and you see Finnish flags flying alongside the US ones.
Point is that I was told it’s pronounced SOW-na. Sow pronounced like “OW.” Is that true or are the Finnish-Americans fucking with me?
It is correct, sow-na might be hard because not sure do people know how to pronounce sow (female pig) correctly :). Other maybe better example is of “sour” without the r, and adding “na” on the end.
Nooooo please stay working two jobs to afford to live while also being a medical emergency away from being homeless
Nooo please stay we want to profit from you
Wait till they find out which 2 countries tax expats (Russia and US)… Leaving is still gonna cost ya.
