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Speaking for almost every other country, please stay in the US. We don’t want you.

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Asshole.

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Sure, we’re the assholes being priced out of our own countries to make room for Americans looking to “live like kings”. You ruined your country, fix it. Don’t come ruin ours.

Asshole.

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You’re an asshole for being a nationalist. The only “us” and “them” are the workers and the owners. Fuck your borders. “We” didn’t ruin “our” country; They ruined the world.

Between your bullshit there is a grain of truth: Any worker who leverages disproportionate purchasing power in order to become an owner is an asshole.

A worker going to another country in order to build a life for themselves is not an asshole.

So fuck you.

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You ruined your country.

Ah yes, I really fucked up back at the constitutional convention when I designed a system that mathematically guarantees a two party system, leading to inevitable gerrymandering, entrenchment, and no incentives against unlimited fundraising . Same with that electoral college that allows minority rule via farmland. I think I got a lot of rights right, but in retrospect I probably should have worded the 2nd amendment differently, or at least foreseen the exponential development of weapons’ destructive power and not implied that citizens should have equal arms to the government. Maybe I could have even got rid of it, I don’t know. I definitely fucked up when I allowed slavery to continue for a while and then after we got rid of it, decided redlining was fine and wouldn’t affect things for multiple generations. I probably also fucked up when I was running all those lobbying firms in the 50s and destroyed American communities to make room for automobiles, and simultaneously started the military industrial complex subsidizing the rest of the worlds defense in exchange for not having healthcare.

I really fucked it up bad, totally my fault. Crazy that I managed to do all that before I was born, and despite voting in every election for the only people who want to slightly change some of that stuff. But you’re right, my bad. I should fix it by voting for a rep in… Oh wait, I forgot I lived in an area without any actual representation for a while. I guess I shouldn’t have created Washington DC!But it’s ok, now I live in an area where my vote means nothing because our system is mathematically designed for gridlock. Guess I should just soak in the unfixable path dependency, instead of trying to go contribute to a different country that has none of these problems. But I was born here, so it’s my…duty to fix all those mistakes I made before I was born rather than going somewhere else, because it’s my responsibility. And you’re probably right to want to keep me out, because I just wanna come… steal your good society instead of contributing to something that more closely aligns with my values. Good read on the situation, you got me!

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Ok, enjoy your 3rd world education, failing infrastructure and crumbling social programs. Oh, do you have clean water where you are?

But at least you could call someone on the internet an asshole. Did you write that in your F150 while cruising down a 6 lane highway passing the signs of your corporate rulers?

Smh, Americans…

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10 points

For clarity: You’re an asshole for being a nationalist.

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9 points

Are you xenophobic towards everyone or just americans? Are you Agartha’s strongest super soldier?

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60% of people under 30 didn’t vote during the last election, the majority of them support the Democrats.

“We can’t do anything to improve things at home, let’s move somewhere else.”

Fuck off, other countries aren’t your consolation prize, fix your own shit.

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Yes, fix the shit by kicking out the triumvirate of policians, corporations and military altogether, not by voting for lesser evil and dealing with shame after legitizming brazen, out of touch geriatric fucks; hoping that just one more legal act will prevent business from torching the planet, manipulating prices, avoiding taxation, eliminating competition, trampling down consumer rights and exploiting workers; or that there might ever be a good war and a bad peace and gaslighting yourself that it’s for a just cause and not spheres of influence and profits off the backs of countries treated like the disputed territories of ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’.

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Do you have a source that those people leaving are the ones that didn’t vote? I would guess that people who consider a measure as drastic as leaving your home country, would vote above average.

Furthermore, I would expect that mainly well-educated people are leaving the US, simply because it’s much easier to get a work permit elsewhere. And high education typically also correlates with higher participation in elections.

I didn’t have much time right now to a deeper research on these stand points. So if I’m wrong, I’d highly appreciate any sources.

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I never said they are (in general, in the article they actually are), but they sure as hell have the power to push people their age to vote!

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Direct quote from the article:

“That being said, I am happy to give up my right to vote as a trade for a significantly better quality of life. It’s cleaner, it’s safer. There’s more opportunity in mobility,” she said.

“There’s no one on this planet who could be that bad of a person that we need to assassinate just to keep them out of the presidency,” Christian said. “How radical the American culture and society is getting in its entirety is making me go, ‘I really need to get out of here.’”

Christian and Salah said they won’t be voting, and Do said she is still learning about the process for voting abroad right now.

“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”

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8 points

Sorry but quotes from two random people are not a serious source to prove that non-voters are leaving the US or vice versa. That’s what you call anecdotal evidence.

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1 point

They absolutely still have the right to vote from abroad

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7 points

lol source is the OP’s article.

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4 points

I left the US, and I vote. (Though voting absentee is super annoying)

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IDK, every generation has had challenges to face. If this generation thinks the answer is to move away and everything will be fine and dandy, I’m afraid they’re mistaken. You’re going to have to earn it and put in hard work, no matter where you go. And while the US has some issues that get magnified, the grass is rarely greener on the other side.

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Spending a 1/10th of my income on rent instead of half of it makes things a hell of a lot easier.

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Doubt you’ll answer which is fine but where’d you move from to? Sounds pretty drastic.

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8 points

You’re just lacking in imagination and don’t really get how good life can be. Other developed countries actually want their citizens to live well.

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Moving away does make everything better depending on where you move of course. The thing that’s difficult about it is the move itself, you need money at the very least and many countries have strict requirements for allowing folks to move there.

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7 points

The border will be closed and I’m not talking about people who want to get in…

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2 points

Just like the original settlers!

People were leaving to join the tribes, so guards.

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3 points

Worked out great for East Germany.

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How can they move to another country? Countries aren’t just taking whoever shows up. Even Americans have to bring something to the table. Doctor? Engineer? Ok. Barista? HVAC guy? LOL good luck. Gen Z hasn’t figured out they’re stuck here. Time to start fixing shit.

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Time to start fixing it? These people are leaving because it’s painfully obvious that this shit is on the brink of getting much worse.

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You missed the point.

WHO is leaving?

HOW are they becoming citizens of another country?

I’m not saying we should or should not leave. I’m saying most of us don’t have the option to leave.

And your response is “can you blame them”? LOL no I can’t blame them. I also can’t be them, and neither can you unless you have an amazing career or the right family member in another country.

So time to start fixing shit. Because there is nowhere else to go.

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Some countries like Geemany or Italy (some towns) will actually pay you a living wage if you are moving and are a professional, not much mind you, but enough to support you until you can up on your feet. There are other countries with similar programs but I don’t remember right now.

EDIT: I forgot the thing with Spain. If you have citizenship with any latin american countries, they will give you a work visa there super easy and cheap. So if you are an American GenZ who’s parents are Mexican, then you just got your Mexican citizenship thanks to a recent change in Mexico and can also apply to move to Spain.

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For your skilled and educated workers, its very easy. Not to mention your neighbouring countries have experienced brain drain for an entire generation because of higher American salaries.

Prepare to experience brain drain as your best doctors, scientists and engineers easily move to other countries leaving you grasping to have enough people in critical areas.

This is one of the reasons the US excelled as a super power. Getting a constant import of the best and the brightest from around the world makes all your companies more successful and your army stronger and better equipped.

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Millennials figured out it’s cheaper to send kids to college in Europe.

Gen Z graduates college in the EU, compares the living standards, and stays there.

This is brain drain, not American Asylees. Although that’s coming if we stay on this path.

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