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Neat. I wish I could do that. I tried several years ago when I actually had some money because I saw this coming. Nobody wanted disabled people then, and less so Americans now.

People wouldn’t listen back then, when I was called hyperbolic and alarmist, and good fucking luck leaving now. People think leaving is easy – it’s not. We’re stuck in this shit show.

Can’t fix it, can’t leave. Going down with the ship. Fuck everyone who voted to kill me. I will not survive this administration. I’ll probably die within the year because, though I worked my ass off in IT since the 90s, I had to burn through my savings by being weak enough to get sick. *I already have to choose between food and medicine, so I mostly don’t eat. I’ll just stop buying medicine.

So fuck me, I deserve to die now. There’s no escape. There’s no hope.

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I just want to say i live in a safe area kinda and have room if you want to survive next 4 years in a progressive state in the middle of the woods but near jobs.

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That’s very kind of you, thanks, truly.

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I am lucky I live on the border of a blue state. If I got to bug out, then I can.

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If you haven’t left yet how do you know you will be able to? You take for granted your freedom. I don’t think allowing you to move will be in the cards eventually.

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Is the blue state Canada?

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Mutual support like that is what’s going to make the world a better place, keep it up, it’s just what the world needs right now

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For the small chance that you have german ancestors, you can claim back their citizenship if they suffered under the nazi regime

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EDIT: see end of comment

If you have any traceable Italian citizenship it is possible to claim Italian citizenship. Even like great-great-great-great-grandparents. But there’s a lot of asterisks involved. There are offices that specialize in this that might help (for a fee).

But if you DO qualify and get all the paperwork and get an appointment and approved, you get full citizenship immediately. Italy always considered you a citizen since birth but did not know about you.

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Italy put a stop to this like, a few days ago. Damn. Now it’s maximum grandparents. https://www.imidaily.com/europe/italy-adopts-decree-restricting-citizenship-by-descent/

Should’ve figured with all the anti-immigrant sentiment this would be ending soon.

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It has 60 days to be approved by parliament and there’s a lot of squawking about it being unconstitutional by immigration attorneys. As gross as it is, the more nationalist fucks are also against it for fairly racist reasons. They can’t stand the idea of Muslims getting citizenship before anyone else 🤮

I’m hoping if it does pass, it’ll still leave a route to citizenship for Italian descendants. We were literally getting ready to file when this dropped.

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wish that were true if you had Dutch ancestors. My maternal Grandfather immigrated with his parents when he was a little boy and came through Ellis Island. I’ve tried looking before, but from what I could, that wouldn’t qualify me for Dutch citizenship, sadly. Otherwise, I’d probably jump at it.

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You might be able to get permanent residence first and then apply for citizenship. I recall meeting a Canadian in Amsterdam who did that.

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Welsh, Scottish, Danish, exclusively. It’s funny, because one side came here in the early 1600s and was the first person to get capital punishment in this country (tried to sell the Bronck’s Farm, was hanged ‘til nearly dead, ear cut off, then banished to New Jersey), then another was Postmaster General and Secretary of the Interior – heritage is weird. And it doesn’t always pass on, no matter what these purists think.

You don’t inherit value, you create it.

e: to the DMers/downvoters:

This guy

And this guy (my great uncle, grandpa’s brother)

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banished to New Jersey

That’s almost as bad as being banished to Detroit.

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My German ancestors came here in the 1840s. That’s too far back for me lmao.

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Yeah it’s really hard. Most won’t qualify.

If you’re a skilled researcher or tenured professor you have a better shot but it will still not be easy.

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Most Americans have absolutely no clue how involved the immigration process actually is. Unless you have specific skills, have immediate family in the country you’re going, or are loaded… 95 times out of 100 you’re not going anywhere.

Although where there’s a will there’s a way. You get a tourist visa, overstay, marry a local.

I’m glad I’m a dual citizen with money stashed away in both the US and the country I was born. If shit gets too bad in the US, I can lay low elsewhere while things calm down.

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Yep… and if you managed to pass the initial barriers of immigration, but have elderly parents that you’re concerned about, there’s 0 chance they’re getting into the country you were allowed into unless they’re already loaded. That’s the only way for the elderly.

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Lilly I’m so sorry this is happening and as a disabled woman, I get it. We’re bottom of the ladder, and nobody cares. Feel free to lean on the sisterhood in !WomensStuff@lazysoci.al we really do get it… it’s not much but its all I have to offer you.

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Thank you. I really appreciate your support, and I hope you’re weathering this as best as possible.

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Np we need to look out for each other right now

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just remember that you become the most dangerous and powerful when you have nothing left to lose.

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