In first interview as VP candidate, JD Vance explains why he called Trump 'America's Hitler'(www.usatoday.com)

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Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee

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1 month ago

Source: made it up.

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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

Nope. Just following the logic of “everything before the ‘but’ is usually disingenuous” to apply to an otherwise self-contradictory statement from a notoriously disingenuous politician 🤷

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FlowVoid@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

Just following the logic of “If Kamala doesn’t confirm my bias, she must be lying.”

And her statement is not “self-contradictory”. She thinks Biden said hurtful things in the past but she doesn’t think he is racist.

Frankly that could apply to a lot of white people. So if you don’t understand how she can truthfully say those things, that’s on you.

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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

She thinks Biden said ~~hurtful~ racist things in the past but she doesn’t think he is racist.

Which would mean she was being disingenuous or wrong.

It doesn’t get much more racist than protesting desegregation bussing because “I don’t want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle”.

That’s almost Trumpian levels of turning the dog whistle into a bullhorn.

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FlowVoid@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

She thinks Biden said ~~hurtful~ racist things in the past but she doesn’t think he is racist.

Bruh, my post is right above yours. Everyone can see you intentionally misquoted me. And intentionally misquoted Kamala.

“I don’t want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle”.

Why do you keep making up quotes? Is it because you think your version sounds worse than the actual quote or is it because you haven’t bothered to find the actual quote?

It doesn’t get much more racist

You might think so, but this is not about whether you think he’s racist. The question is what Kamala thinks, and she already said she doesn’t agree with you.

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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

“I don’t want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle”.

Why do you keep making up quotes

I’m not. I misremembered the exact wording, but here’s his statement against desegregation bussing in full:

Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.

Under the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, the federal Department of Health, Education and Welfare had a powerful tool to fight school segregation: It could withhold funding from districts that refused to integrate — and integration effectively meant busing. Mr. Helms wanted to strip the agency of that power.

As Mr. Biden rose on the Senate floor in September 1975 to embrace that approach, Mr. Helms wryly welcomed him “to the ranks of the enlightened.” Mr. Biden objected to the education department mandating desegregation absent a court order, and warned of white flight to the suburbs and even racial unrest. … Mr. Helms’s amendment, which would have also barred the education department from collecting data about the race of students or teachers, failed. But a slightly narrower measure written by Mr. Biden, which prevented schools from using federal dollars to assign teachers or students by race, passed, 50-43.

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FlowVoid@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

Did you also misremember my post? I didn’t say Kamala thinks Biden said racist things, and she didn’t say that either.

Anyway, you might think that statement makes Biden a racist, and that’s your prerogative. But Kamala does not have to agree with you.

Maybe she thinks it was a hurtful thing to say but that’s not enough to make Biden a racist. Maybe she thinks it doesn’t reflect who Biden is today. There are countless other possible explanations for her position, and ultimately she doesn’t need you to tell her what she thinks.

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Lightor@lemmy.world

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1 month ago

Misremembering something where wording is important, then presenting it as fact is very close to lying.

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1 month ago

Not at all.

We need to go to the store, but let’s hurry so we can get back home.

She is very talented, but she is also very modest.

The weather was cold, but the scenery was beautiful.

The movie was long, but it kept my attention throughout.

I mean I could go on and on. If this is the one thing your holding into turn you’ve got nothing.

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