Factually, that’s what he did during his time in office as well. I’m not sure what they thought had changed.

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
158 points

This is an interesting article - thanks for sharing! I found this snippet noteworthy:

According to one former aide who served in the White House under the former president, Trump has lost the plot.

“The stakes for Trump this election are arguably the highest they’ve ever been. His criminal cases don’t go away if he loses. Yet he seems to be phoning it in, running a remarkably low-energy, undisciplined campaign,” explained Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Trump spokesperson. “From spending days off the campaign trail golfing to coming up with frankly weak nicknames like ‘Kamabala,’ it feels like he’s lost his mojo.”

That is a good point about the criminal cases not going away if he loses, right? It’s interesting how it’s openly stated by the former aide.

I’m unable to muster any sympathy for the felon’s perpetual state of stewing.

permalink
report
reply
70 points

He must think that “his” SC will protect him regardless, so he has an out if he loses. Or, he knows about the plan to ratfuck the election regardless of the outcome.

permalink
report
parent
reply
68 points

A. Win it. (Looking increasingly unlikely)

B. Steal it. Most of the fake electors are still in place, they’ve had four years to hire a new sleepers

C. Coup 2.0 historically the Democrats haven’t been very smart about things and it’ll totally blindside when you pull it again only this time with more people. All those people that got locked up in serious consequences we’ll just tell them that we’ll pardon them again

D. Civil War 2.0. if he doesn’t win it, and can’t steal it, and if there’s actually military protection around the Capital for 2.0. he’ll just openly call for the south to rise again. Only this time it’s not the south, it’s the rural areas, hell plan a Vietnam style offensive where the rural armed people lay siege everywhere.

My real actual best guess is he’s tired. He’s old, he’s out of shape, he’s stressed to the nines and he’s just trying to blow off the stress, he probably does have a plan b in a plan c. His actual plan d is probably two take a flight to Russia.

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points

Even the recent movie “Civil War” didn’t touch on how and why such a thing started, because it just doesn’t make sense. There may be regional conflicts and riots, I don’t doubt that, but there’s no single organization to pull off a new Confederacy or whatever it would be. People watching the film even laughed at the union of Texas and California…what? Maybe that was a subtle message by the writers to not take the overall thing seriously, the movie wasn’t about the background events but about the characters in a hypothetical situation.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

C and D might be slipping away from him, and possibly even B. They require a base that’s fired up to support him. He’s starting to lose that. They’ll still vote for him, and his best chance is to take a straight electoral college victory without the popular vote, but nothing extraordinary to subvert the system. If he doesn’t make that, though, he’s probably done.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I don’t think he ever wanted to be president, but now he has no choice.

Russia is probably plan B or C.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Look at the age of the AVERAGE US farmer.
I am not worried about a civil war lead by the gravy seals.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I think the civil war one is actually the best case scenario.

Imagine a tired con man, not ready to fight, barely any energy. Calls for his die hard supporters to show up en masses and then a very tiny group show up and get arrested by the army (assuming the army doesn’t side with them).

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

For D the winning strategy for the United States needs to be to treat them as harshly as we treat eco terrorists. The viet cong had experienced Japanese and French occupation and so were more willing to engage in prolonged conflict. The confederacy had a lot of build up to prepare the common rabble for war. Martyrless crackdowns with a propaganda campaign can remove the will to fight.

permalink
report
parent
reply
34 points

Also a good point that a critical measure for the leader of the free world in the mind of a Trump staffer is how strong the nickname game is.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

trump, trump, bo-brump, Bonana-fanna fo-frump Fee fi mo-mrump trump

permalink
report
parent
reply
27 points

If he loses, I’m very curious to see if people in power still support him. I don’t think he will be very viable again in 4 years, physically or mentally.

He may become more useful if they let him get eaten by the legal machine. Then they’re able to invoke his image like they do with Reagan all the time, but with some martyrdom thrown in about how those mean libs kicked a former president when he was down, nevermind he got away with the crimes he’d be charged with for about a decade by then.

He might not ever serve time, but having everyone ignore him as useless as he sunsets might be an almost fitting punishment. We know the right struggles with empathy, so he could be facing some very frosty cold shoulders.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

The best thing that could have happened for Republicans was trump got assassinated and Biden refused to step down.

Now they’re stuck with trump and Dems cut all their baggage by dropping their elderly infirm candidate.

trumps only real shot is stepping down to. Letting someone else run, and counting on them to pardon everything possible and the SC to take care of the rest.

That has a chance at least, but he can’t beat Kamala.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

I’m glad he put in as much effort into this as he did to stopping Covid. I think I’d have preferred Biden to Kamala, but Joe just stopped bringing it, so I was getting nervous. Without years of Sleepy Joe and Brandon memes, Trump just can’t figure it out lately, and barely seems to be trying.

I’m in Pennsylvania, so I’m going to be voting the hell out of this election, and hopefully we’ll reach Jan 7 without drama. Then we can start getting on Kamala for her less than great positions, but until then, we got bigger things to deal with and I’m not going to crap much on the better of the 2 options. Post election is another story.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

The Republicans couldn’t even elect a House Speaker, you think they’ll be able to agree on a new Presidential candidate this late in the game? Trump is the only thing holding the GOP together. Without him they’ve got nothing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

The best thing that could happen for Republicans and Trump is that they manage to fuck with the election enough that it doesn’t matter who wins the vote, either the Senate or the Supreme Court awards the election to Trump.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

If he loses, there will be another Jan 6 with both sides being more ready for it, maybe even the supreme court tries to forcefully install him, then the cognitive decline will be so severe he no longer needed for the GOP, then global fascism goes from moderate decline to steep decline, with currently far-right parties pulling the “let’s pretend we’re moderates” game like Fidesz and many others will actually have to become moderate.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I just don’t feel the same energy. I see much less Trump signs and so on, though it’s picked up a little, it’s nowhere near what it used to be. The MAGA relatives aren’t going on about it at get-togethers, and when they do, it’s much less passionate than prior years.

I think any gathering in DC is not going to be met with the same light hands as before. There’s no one there to whip them into a frenzy, and with a Dem president and potential future president in charge, win or lose, I don’t feel they would go out sitting idle. Last time was the guy in the oval office trying to stay. Now he’s got to try to get in, and that seems to be a much steeper hill to climb.

Don’t get me wrong, even if Dems were to sweep everything, the fascists aren’t going to go quietly. Plenty of Americans have always been monarchists, and plenty supported the literal Nazis up until bombs fell. Then they just didn’t like those Nazis.

A large portion of this country still seems pissed the North won the Civil War, and until that gets resolved, the need to guard our country isn’t over.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Between criminal charges, a reinvented and reinvigorated Dem campaign and havi g been grazed by a bullet… I think he he’s cratered.

To say nothing of his noticeable cognitive decline.

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 11K

    Posts

  • 189K

    Comments